Redshirt

[Ricardo del Rio]

Here is my question again.

If FVV redshirts, who will be the starting point guard for the 13'-14' season?

Will Coach Marshall start an inexperienced, redshirt player at point guard in the 13'-14' season?

Who will be the backup point guard for the 13'-14' season? Tekele Cotton?

Just wondering.

[tropicalshox]

Who will be the backup point guard for the 13'-14' season?

My best guess is DJ Bowles.

[Kung Wu]

We know EO isn't going to play the 5 constantly, for conditioning (can't build for strength, speed, and conditioning at his height/weight). However, I think the team is 2-3 wins better with a bigger line-up, and that means EO and Lufile splitting for 30+ minutes combined at the 5, leaving <10 minutes for Hall. Hall will play probably 28-29 minutes if his heart allows, so I clearly see him playing most of that at the 4.

Now, if you want to be completely pessimistic, EO and Lufile can't play good minutes, Hall plays every second at the 5, and Early/White split time at the 4. I don't think that is our best team though.

Could be. I haven't got to see Lufile play and keep forgetting about him. Is Lufile a pure center?

[CBB_Fan]

Could be. I haven't got to see Lufile play and keep forgetting about him. Is Lufile a pure center?

Yes. He is a Canadian that hasn't been playing basketball long (2 years?), but his handles are pretty good for a big man even without a lot of experience. Runs the court well, from what I've heard. Pure center, no PF in him.

He won't redshirt unless the injury is worse than I thought. Hopefully that isn't the case; we don't have nearly the depth in the post that we do for guards.

[Shockadelica]

Coach won't make anyone do it, but D Green should, and it's in both his and the program's best interest.

But yea, he can bust some zones, bigtime.

I think DGreen is the obvious choice. Seeing him at Shockermadness he looks like he could contribute this year offensively ... but could use a year to get stronger and become a Shocker-type defensive player and rebounder.

It would be a nice luxury for the Shox to have to have him take the shirt this season and have the right attitude about it.

[pinstripers]

Most likely neither Wiggins or Lufile has a year left to burn, but trop could address that.

[tropicalshox]

Pretty sure Lufile can't has he was at two other jucos before Coffeeville. I'd have to check on Wiggins but somebody recently said he has used his redshrit. I don' t expect Marshall wants ro redshirt eirher of rhem..

[SHOXAAC]

We know EO isn't going to play the 5 constantly, for conditioning (can't build for strength, speed, and conditioning at his height/weight). However, I think the team is 2-3 wins better with a bigger line-up, and that means EO and Lufile splitting for 30+ minutes combined at the 5, leaving <10 minutes for Hall. Hall will play probably 28-29 minutes if his heart allows, so I clearly see him playing most of that at the 4.

Now, if you want to be completely pessimistic, EO and Lufile can't play good minutes, Hall plays every second at the 5, and Early/White split time at the 4. I don't think that is our best team though.

Your correct, EO won't play the 5 constantly. It isn't due to conditioning. It's due to HCGM wants what is best for the team, which is Hall at the 5 "the majority of the time," not at the 4. EO at the 5 doesn't give us the best chance at winning "consistently." By all indications Early is playing primarily at the 4 in practices and Hall at the 5. I can't imagine HCGM playing a different lineup in games than he does in practice.

[pinstripers]

Interpretations of Coach's interview vary wildly.

[Aargh]

Early hasn't practiced at the 3 "yet", but that could be because of Lufile's injury. Wiggins seems to be having his share of practice "problems" and Marshall had no problem sitting Durley when Durley had practice "problems". That leaves Wessel as possibly the only option at the 3. Cotton is a 6'2" combo guard. Putting Cotton in the front court is highly unlikely. I could see Baker at the 3, but Marshall has him running PG in FVV's absence, so Baker at the 3 is unlikely. DWill isn't at full speed, so getting him up to speed at a spot he hasn't played is unlikely.

While I think Green will RS, I also think we're one injury, or 4 fouls in Cancun away from needing him this year.

[wufan]

Yes. He is a Canadian that hasn't been playing basketball long (2 years?), but his handles are pretty good for a big man even without a lot of experience. Runs the court well, from what I've heard. Pure center, no PF in him.

Lufile is actually more power forward than center in my book. He has a face-up game out to 12 feet and can drive to the basket. His timing on defensive blocks is not spectacular, but his lateral quickness is good for his size. Based on his size/our need, I think he plays center.

[CBB_Fan]

Your correct, EO won't play the 5 constantly. It isn't due to conditioning. It's due to HCGM wants what is best for the team, which is Hall at the 5 "the majority of the time," not at the 4. EO at the 5 doesn't give us the best chance at winning "consistently." By all indications Early is playing primarily at the 4 in practices and Hall at the 5. I can't imagine HCGM playing a different lineup in games than he does in practice.

The question isn't Orukpe vs Hall. It is Orukpe vs Wiggins.

If Wiggins is getting it, and is good enough to start, then it makes more sense to go Wiggins/Early/Hall than Early/Hall/Wiggins. Otherwise, your frontcourt is better with Early/Hall/Orukpe. Especially if Wessel is really your next best option; Wessel/Early/Hall is worse than Early/Hall/Orukpe.

And while Early has yet to get major minutes at the three in practice, that is majorly dependent on whether or not Orukpe and Lufile can get enough minutes to man the center position. With Lufile injured, that cannot happen. Hall can play either the 4 or the 5, while EO can only play the 5, and Hall is definitely the more important player of the two. If Lufile is likely to be injured at the beginning of the season, it shifts the line-up around so that Hall plays the majority of his minutes at the 5.

And yes, I feel EO has enough defensive impact to up our chances of success. This is basketball, and more height/athleticism is almost always a good thing. Without him in the line-up, we are a small team (typical mid-major size) instead of a large one.

[CBB_Fan]

Lufile is actually more power forward than center in my book. He has a face-up game out to 12 feet and can drive to the basket. His timing on defensive blocks is not spectacular, but his lateral quickness is good for his size. Based on his size/our need, I think he plays center.

When I saw him, I was more impressed with his footwork around the basket. An ability to shoot the mid-range shot is nice, but I think he is better in either pick n' pop situation (PF or Center) or low post work. Just because a big "can" dribble without the ball going of his foot doesn't mean I want him driving.

[wushock]

Wiggins and Lufile attended twoJucos, however they still have two years of eligibility and both could redshirt. You dont have to sit out when transferring fromJuco to Juco, therefore, didn't have to reshirt in Juco

[SHOXAAC]

The question isn't Orukpe vs Hall. It is Orukpe vs Wiggins.

If Wiggins is getting it, and is good enough to start, then it makes more sense to go Wiggins/Early/Hall than Early/Hall/Wiggins. Otherwise, your frontcourt is better with Early/Hall/Orukpe. Especially if Wessel is really your next best option; Wessel/Early/Hall is worse than Early/Hall/Orukpe.

And while Early has yet to get major minutes at the three in practice, that is majorly dependent on whether or not Orukpe and Lufile can get enough minutes to man the center position. With Lufile injured, that cannot happen. Hall can play either the 4 or the 5, while EO can only play the 5, and Hall is definitely the more important player of the two. If Lufile is likely to be injured at the beginning of the season, it shifts the line-up around so that Hall plays the majority of his minutes at the 5.

And yes, I feel EO has enough defensive impact to up our chances of success. This is basketball, and more height/athleticism is almost always a good thing. Without him in the line-up, we are a small team (typical mid-major size) instead of a large one.

Thanks coach...good luck!!!
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