Redshirt

[pinstripers]

If EO and Hall really do start at the 4 & 5, and if Chadrack and Cleanthony actually get lots of time at those spots, then...........

[1979Shocker]

I got the feeling on the Coach's Show yesterday that HCGM wouldn't be all that upset if Green said he didn't want to redshirt.

[Dave Stalwart]

Anybody mentioning White or Wessel for a redshirt isn't paying attention.

I really don't think they should. I think we will need White for depth and Wessel is getting some love lately. Those are two guys that might even start depending on some things. I just like to hope we would be strong enough in our newcomers to make it possible, but that is not going to happen. I always like the idea of having guys for longer, but you are right.

[Aargh]

VanVleet and Lufile have fallen a long way off the early learning curve by the practices they've missed.

I don't know how that might affect redshirts, but it seems to take two projected contributors out of the rotation until a ways into the season.

Without Lufile, we may need Green in Cancun.

[WSUwatcher]

VanVleet and Lufile have fallen a long way off the early learning curve by the practices they've missed.

I don't know how that might affect redshirts, but it seems to take two projected contributors out of the rotation until a ways into the season.

Without Lufile, we may need Green in Cancun.

Huh, Aargh? Lufile isn't just a big, he's a big big. Green is a tall SF. How do they relate to each other? That would have to be the domino effect of all time.

[wufan]

Nm

[WuDrWu]

Green and Lufile are never going to occupy the same area of the court, unless it's a mistake.

Green is going to redshirt.

It is not easy to be successful at all things the first time around. Being away from home, college academics, D1 basketball, transitioning from a child to an adult. It's not easy, it's not simple. Mistakes will be made. These guys are going to be really good in February and March. Give them a chance in November and December.

[Aargh]

Without Lufile, the only option at C is Hall/EO. That takes Hall pretty much out of the option at PF. That leaves Early/White at PF, which takes Early out of availability at SF, which could lead to needing minutes from Green.

It's a pretty big domino effect, but with all the question marks that exist with this team, and the number of people whose positions aren't even known yet, any impact at the 3/4/5 spots can impact any of the rest of those spots.

I don't think there's ny doubt Hall is a 4/5 and Early is a 3/4. That sets up the dominoes.

[shocker22]

Without Lufile, the only option at C is Hall/EO. That takes Hall pretty much out of the option at PF. That leaves Early/White at PF, which takes Early out of availability at SF, which could lead to needing minutes from Green.

It's a pretty big domino effect, but with all the question marks that exist with this team, and the number of people whose positions aren't even known yet, any impact at the 3/4/5 spots can impact any of the rest of those spots.

I don't think there's ny doubt Hall is a 4/5 and Early is a 3/4. That sets up the dominoes.

But we still have Wessell, Wiggins, and Cotton who all can play the three. Unless there is another injusry Green still Redshirts.

[Kung Wu]

Without Lufile, the only option at C is Hall/EO. That takes Hall pretty much out of the option at PF. That leaves Early/White at PF, which takes Early out of availability at SF, which could lead to needing minutes from Green.

It's a pretty big domino effect, but with all the question marks that exist with this team, and the number of people whose positions aren't even known yet, any impact at the 3/4/5 spots can impact any of the rest of those spots.

I don't think there's ny doubt Hall is a 4/5 and Early is a 3/4. That sets up the dominoes.

We know that EO is not going to get tons of minutes at the 5, which means Hall is the man. Do you really see a scenario where Hall is playing at the 4? I just don't see him spending any time at the 4 at all this year.

[wu_shizzle]

It's a pretty big domino effect...

I'm not seeing it, there's just way too much depth for that to happen.

[SHOXAAC]

I think Hall will spend3-4 minutes per game at the 4 with EO or Lufile at the 5. That's it. Come rain or shine Hall is our 5 man...period, regardless if we have injury issues or not.

[1972Shocker]

VanVleet and Lufile have fallen a long way off the early learning curve by the practices they've missed.

Having Fred, CJ and D-Will injured doesn't just hurt those guys, although they are obviously the biggest losers.

Their absence no doubt limits HCGM's ability to work with various rotations and groupings I'm sure he would like to see and it causes guys like Ron Baker to spend more working at something other than than natural or primary position.

OTOH, Kadeem probably makes a great proxy for CJ which is helpful for practices. I am a little concerned that this separated shoulder issue for CJ could bother him throughout the season.

[Kung Wu]

I think Hall will spend3-4 minutes per game at the 4 with EO or Lufile at the 5. That's it. Come rain or shine Hall is our 5 man...period, regardless if we have injury issues or not.

I think EO and Hall splitting time is about perfect ... EO gives good necessary minutes to Hall. I just don't see them on the pitch at the same time in the standard game. But what the heck do I know?

[CBB_Fan]

We know that EO is not going to get tons of minutes at the 5, which means Hall is the man. Do you really see a scenario where Hall is playing at the 4? I just don't see him spending any time at the 4 at all this year.

We know EO isn't going to play the 5 constantly, for conditioning (can't build for strength, speed, and conditioning at his height/weight). However, I think the team is 2-3 wins better with a bigger line-up, and that means EO and Lufile splitting for 30+ minutes combined at the 5, leaving <10 minutes for Hall. Hall will play probably 28-29 minutes if his heart allows, so I clearly see him playing most of that at the 4.

Now, if you want to be completely pessimistic, EO and Lufile can't play good minutes, Hall plays every second at the 5, and Early/White split time at the 4. I don't think that is our best team though.