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  • #76
    Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
    Your best case scenario requires 4 PGs?
    Best scenario at the point is that Armstead takes a majority of the time, with FVV getting decent minutes. I put Cotton and Baker in not because they would steal minutes from those two (they won't), but because they might be the de-facto PG in some 3-guard lineups. If Baker, Cotton, and Wiggins are the backcourt, either Baker or Cotton could serve as a PG. Basically, I'm giving them points for being to play the combo-guard role from the SG position. This won't be necessary every game, but I think they might come in if Armstead or FVV is having a bad game or to give them a spell.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by wufan View Post
      Cle is a 4/3…worked with him at the 4. Will be working him in at the 3. Beautiful athlete.
      This is the one I like. I like knowing coach is working with him at both

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      • #78
        Originally posted by wufan View Post
        As to Early, he stated that he'll play 25 minutes per game if he's healthy…I think coach has big plans for his star wing!
        Maybe I'm forgetting a lot, but I can't remember coach gushing about a guy like he does bout cle. He's usually pretty guarded right?

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        • #79
          Originally posted by DJ06Shocker View Post
          This is the one I like. I like knowing coach is working with him at both
          I didn't start hearing much about Early at the 3 until after Wiggins started to get complaints. They are probably related. Still, I want Early at the 3, even at the expense of Wiggins.

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          • #80
            My best case scenario has EO at the 5, Hall at the 4 and Early at the 3. Lufile, White, and Wiggins as the back-ups.
            Last edited by wufan; October 29, 2012, 11:12 PM.
            Livin the dream

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            • #81
              Originally posted by wufan View Post
              My best case scenario has EO at the 5, Hall at the 4 and EO at the 3. Lufile, White, and Wiggins as the back-ups.
              I expect EO to be good but I don't know if he can be THAT good :)

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              • #82
                Originally posted by DJ06Shocker View Post
                I expect EO to be good but I don't know if he can be THAT good :)
                I think/hope that is the starting line-up. However, that doesn't mean EO would play 20+ minutes, because either way Hall and Lufile will play a lot of minutes (maybe even Early or White in small-ball line-ups). I think what we'll see is EO on the court at the beginning of the game to establish a defensive presence, and then Cotton or Wiggins will come off the bench and push Hall and Early to C and PF.

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                • #83
                  Oh I'm a believer. I was joking about the typo of him playing 5 and 3 at the same time. It has since been adjusted

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by CBB_Fan View Post
                    Just to clarify, I do know that college basketball is divided into halves, not quarters. I still mentally divide the game into 4 segments of 10 minutes each, but in reality the game is actually divided into 5 parts per half, with media timeouts every 4 minutes. Minimum I see Orukpe getting is 8 minutes a game (starting both halves and playing 4 minutes each), with a maximum of 20-24ish because of our center depth (Hall can't play 30+ minutes a game with his heart condition, so I want him mostly playing PF and Early playing mostly SF).

                    If worst comes to worst, I think you'll see Hall play almost entirely at center, with short spells a couple times a game from Orukpe. Early plays PF pretty much exclusively, leaving SF to committee (given Wiggins reported struggles, we could even see Wessel starting here). However, it is possible that Wiggins, not Derail Green, will redshirt (is he eligible?), leaving Wessel as our starting SF and Green as the backup. I see Baker and Cotton getting minutes at all three backcourt positions, but Armstead and Williams are going to be our starters. In a better form:

                    Worst Case Scenario:

                    PG: Armstead>FVV>Cotton>Baker
                    SG: Williams>Cotton>Baker
                    SF: Wessel>Green>Baker>Cotton
                    PF: Early>Green>Hall
                    C: Hall>Orukpe=Lufile

                    Best Case Scenario:

                    PG: PG: Armstead>FVV>Cotton>Baker
                    SG: Williams>Cotton>Baker
                    SF: Wiggins>Wessel
                    PF: Early>Hall
                    C: Orukpe>Hall>Lufile
                    CBB_Fan, if you don't take a break, you're going to explode.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by DJ06Shocker View Post
                      Oh I'm a believer. I was joking about the typo of him playing 5 and 3 at the same time
                      Oh, that can totally happen. What you don't realize is that Orukpe is secretly the reincarnation of Mutumbo, and is going to play SF and shoot a ton of 3s. Yeah, I know Mutumbo was a little tall for SF, but I think Orukpe is about right. Just gotta keep him out of the paint, while letting the center Orukpe never leave.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by shockmonster View Post
                        CBB_Fan, if you don't take a break, you're going to explode.
                        Too late.

                        If it makes you feel better, I don't do this with just Wichita State. Actually, I made a spreadsheet last year to track the stats of every D1 school, calculate their win score and that of all of their opponents, and then the amount of change their defense and offense had on the opponent. Basically, the stats for 345 teams, plus the schedules of each of them. I did this by hand.

                        I also have a spreadsheet with every NBA draft pick in the modern era, to let me compare players by draft position, year, college, or pro stats. Also, the I have the average career stats by draft position, and I'm working on the season stats for every player to derive the numerical change year-to-year by position and stat.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by CBB_Fan View Post
                          Too late.

                          If it makes you feel better, I don't do this with just Wichita State. Actually, I made a spreadsheet last year to track the stats of every D1 school, calculate their win score and that of all of their opponents, and then the amount of change their defense and offense had on the opponent. Basically, the stats for 345 teams, plus the schedules of each of them. I did this by hand.

                          I also have a spreadsheet with every NBA draft pick in the modern era, to let me compare players by draft position, year, college, or pro stats. Also, the I have the average career stats by draft position, and I'm working on the season stats for every player to derive the numerical change year-to-year by position and stat.
                          Maybe my head will explode then.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by CBB_Fan View Post
                            Too late.

                            If it makes you feel better, I don't do this with just Wichita State. Actually, I made a spreadsheet last year to track the stats of every D1 school, calculate their win score and that of all of their opponents, and then the amount of change their defense and offense had on the opponent. Basically, the stats for 345 teams, plus the schedules of each of them. I did this by hand.

                            I also have a spreadsheet with every NBA draft pick in the modern era, to let me compare players by draft position, year, college, or pro stats. Also, the I have the average career stats by draft position, and I'm working on the season stats for every player to derive the numerical change year-to-year by position and stat.
                            Are you $hittin' us? Money Ball II
                            "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by WstateU View Post
                              Are you $hittin' us? Money Ball II
                              Coach, you want D-will in your starting lineup.

                              Why do I want that?

                              Because he wins basketball games. He may retire as the winningest player in WSU history.

                              Other guy: yeah but he's injured! And his stats are pretty regular...

                              Coach: Do I look like a care about that? Well?

                              You do not, sir

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by wufan View Post
                                EO is better. He will be given quality minutes (4 at a time). Not Kareem!
                                Kareen? You mean Kadeem? Kadeem won't play until next year. Please provide the context and other bits that I am missing.


                                T


                                ...:cool:

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