Marshall talk show

[1972Shocker]

I seem to remember that Coach Marshall said Evan and Jake had wished they had red-shirted last year.

Yes, and that is something he has previously mentioned recently. My understanding is that 3G suggested/recommended they both redshirt but neither wanted to and 3G will not force a kid to redshirt.

[1972Shocker]

Early in the show Mike mentioned the Shocks had been picked 4th. 3G's comment was something along the line that we have so many newcomers that it would be difficult for anyone, including himself, to predict a finish for this year's Shockers.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Early in the show Mike mentioned the Shocks had been picked 4th. 3G's comment was something along the line that "Who knows. Certainly not those idiots. If we finish 4th, then the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl."

Fixed.

[shocks02]

I get the feeling that in the future, when a freshman is encouraged by marshall to redshirt, the influence of White and Wessel might change a few minds. For instance possibly Derail this season.

[im4wsu]

Lock down defenders:

Demetric
Wessel
Cotton
Baker

EO when he is fresh
Hall at times

Based on hearsay, shouldn't Armstead be listed in this group?

[wufan]

Based on previous performance he should, but he was not included by Marshall.

[CBB_Fan]

Comments on Orukpe lead me to believe that he will play 16+ minutes a game. I'm guessing he'll start, play for minutes, and come in once per quarter. This also makes me think that his mistakes tend to worsen as he gets tired, given his of natural feel for the game and methodical 'thinking man's' style of play. I know it is very hard to build endurance at the same time that you build muscle and athleticism, so hopefully this just means his build is above his conditioning level. I think a good Orukpe elevates this team's defense and ceiling.

[Dave Stalwart]

Yeah I agree on about 16 minutes for EO during the crunch time of the season but probably more during the cake games. Start him both halves and bench him as soon as he does something wrong. If he's bringing it we are golden

[Kung Wu]

Yeah I agree on about 16 minutes for EO during the crunch time of the season but probably more during the cake games. Start him both halves and bench him as soon as he does something wrong. If he's bringing it we are golden

You gotta give him a _little_ breathing room or he'll come out playing tighter than Rosanne Barr's g-string. He's already over-thinking as it is. He needs to get some game PT where he can take some risks and find out what he can get by with and what he can't.

[CBB_Fan]

Yeah I agree on about 16 minutes for EO during the crunch time of the season but probably more during the cake games. Start him both halves and bench him as soon as he does something wrong. If he's bringing it we are golden

Just to clarify, I do know that college basketball is divided into halves, not quarters. I still mentally divide the game into 4 segments of 10 minutes each, but in reality the game is actually divided into 5 parts per half, with media timeouts every 4 minutes. Minimum I see Orukpe getting is 8 minutes a game (starting both halves and playing 4 minutes each), with a maximum of 20-24ish because of our center depth (Hall can't play 30+ minutes a game with his heart condition, so I want him mostly playing PF and Early playing mostly SF).

If worst comes to worst, I think you'll see Hall play almost entirely at center, with short spells a couple times a game from Orukpe. Early plays PF pretty much exclusively, leaving SF to committee (given Wiggins reported struggles, we could even see Wessel starting here). However, it is possible that Wiggins, not Derail Green, will redshirt (is he eligible?), leaving Wessel as our starting SF and Green as the backup. I see Baker and Cotton getting minutes at all three backcourt positions, but Armstead and Williams are going to be our starters. In a better form:

Worst Case Scenario:

PG: Armstead>FVV>Cotton>Baker
SG: Williams>Cotton>Baker
SF: Wessel>Green>Baker>Cotton
PF: Early>Green>Hall
C: Hall>Orukpe=Lufile

Best Case Scenario:

PG: PG: Armstead>FVV>Cotton>Baker
SG: Williams>Cotton>Baker
SF: Wiggins>Wessel
PF: Early>Hall
C: Orukpe>Hall>Lufile

[Dave Stalwart]

Toss white in behind early and hall. I think you forgot an nice piece there :)

[CBB_Fan]

It's night and I'm tired, what can I say? Of course Jake White will be an important piece of the puzzle this year. I was wondering why those lineups sounded so depressing...

More correctly:

Worst:

PF: Early>White>Green (no Hall, he'll only play C)

Best:

PF: Hall>White>Early


Thinking about it more, I think we could go with a crazy small-ball lineup if Green doesn't red-shirt.

G1: Armstead
G2: Baker
SF: Green

PF1: White
PF2: Early

This line-up could hit the outside shot...

[Kung Wu]

Just to clarify, I do know that college basketball is divided into halves, not quarters. I still mentally divide the game into 4 segments of 10 minutes each, but in reality the game is actually divided into 5 parts per half, with media timeouts every 4 minutes. Minimum I see Orukpe getting is 8 minutes a game (starting both halves and playing 4 minutes each), with a maximum of 20-24ish because of our center depth (Hall can't play 30+ minutes a game with his heart condition, so I want him mostly playing PF and Early playing mostly SF).

If worst comes to worst, I think you'll see Hall play almost entirely at center, with short spells a couple times a game from Orukpe. Early plays PF pretty much exclusively, leaving SF to committee (given Wiggins reported struggles, we could even see Wessel starting here). However, it is possible that Wiggins, not Derail Green, will redshirt (is he eligible?), leaving Wessel as our starting SF and Green as the backup. I see Baker and Cotton getting minutes at all three backcourt positions, but Armstead and Williams are going to be our starters. In a better form:

Worst Case Scenario:

PG: Armstead>FVV>Cotton>Baker
SG: Williams>Cotton>Baker
SF: Wessel>Green>Baker>Cotton
PF: Early>Green>Hall
C: Hall>Orukpe=Lufile

Best Case Scenario:

PG: PG: Armstead>FVV>Cotton>Baker
SG: Williams>Cotton>Baker
SF: Wiggins>Wessel
PF: Early>Hall
C: Orukpe>Hall>Lufile

Your best case scenario requires 4 PGs?

[Dave Stalwart]

It's night and I'm tired, what can I say? Of course Jake White will be an important piece of the puzzle this year. I was wondering why those lineups sounded so depressing...

More correctly:

Worst:

PF: Early>White>Green (no Hall, he'll only play C)

Best:

PF: Hall>White>Early

I just figured you were racist. Apparently we have a lot of racists on SN :)

[wufan]

Wiggins has been in JUCO for three years. He is not eligible to red shirt.