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  • I may be misremembering, but I feel like Brown and staff actually made halftime adjustments that the players largely executed. Maybe not every time, but some of the times.

    I'm not sure I've seen that with Mills.

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    • This retrospective on Isaac Brown’s teams like he didn’t go 15-13 with 4 NBA players on his roster is crazy

      Mills ain’t great, but look what he is working with, we just don’t have talent

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      • Originally posted by FadedCrown View Post
        This retrospective on Isaac Brown’s teams like he didn’t go 15-13 with 4 NBA players on his roster is crazy

        Mills ain’t great, but look what he is working with, we just don’t have talent
        Not disagreeing, but this is the transfer portal era. He opted to keep a senior laden team who he’d had a terrible season with. He got his own guys as additions who haven’t done enough. Can’t really compare.

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        • I’m just going to say this here now. I’m canceling everything I pay, from espn+ to everything else I do to watch the shockers.

          This program is dead with Mills running it. The fact that we’ve gotten drummed up by umkc, paid them $80k doesn’t even leave a salty taste in my mouth. I’m just resigned at this point.

          I’ll read Taylor’s articles to see what’s up, but Mills has lost my support at this point.

          This might sound pathetic, but I’d be full on willing to contribute to a billboard that says “Fire Mills, Donors Help (Pls)”

          I wish I was joking.

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          • Yeah, this IB stuff is revisionist history. He had, arguably, some of the most talented rosters WSU has ever had. I'm pretty confident that you give Mills Etienne, Council, Dennis, Porter and Udeze we would be a tournament team, and that doesn't include the year we had Gilbert. We would still have similar problems, but talent takes you a long way. We've downgraded at every position since those teams.

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            • Originally posted by FadedCrown View Post
              This retrospective on Isaac Brown’s teams like he didn’t go 15-13 with 4 NBA players on his roster is crazy

              Mills ain’t great, but look what he is working with, we just don’t have talent
              Mills sucks. Stop trying to blame it soley on the player that he mainly recruited.

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              • Originally posted by shocker43 View Post
                Yeah, this IB stuff is revisionist history. He had, arguably, some of the most talented rosters WSU has ever had. I'm pretty confident that you give Mills Etienne, Council, Dennis, Porter and Udeze we would be a tournament team, and that doesn't include the year we had Gilbert. We would still have similar problems, but talent takes you a long way. We've downgraded at every position since those teams.
                Sounds like Mills is an awful recruiter .. which is the main part of his job.

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                • Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post

                  Sounds like Mills is an awful recruiter .. which is the main part of his job.
                  I think he's bad at constructing a roster, which is the main part of his job.

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                  • I did not think Brown was a good coach for Xs And Os or player development, but I did think he improved in those aspects by his last season.

                    Mills has not impressed me in either.

                    ​​​​​For most of the past two games, we played without any adjustments on either side of the ball. Our best offense was to drive and hope for a foul, and our best defense was to go under on screens and hope red hot shooters missed.

                    Sure, we went cold. That happens. But are we actually running plays to get our shooters shots, or are they just getting the ball dumped to them late in the shot clock and firing out of desperation? It feels like our opponents have been hunting for looks, and we've been stumbled into them and rushing.

                    We over dribbled, rarely passed, and get massively out-rebounded in a game where we had a large height advantage.

                    Halfway through, where were our hands? Down. How many assists did we have? Not even a handful. How often were we boxing out? Basically never.

                    Even the fact that we made it 35 minutes in with just 6 fouls tells me that we weren't putting in enough defensive intensity. That's on the coach. He had timeout after timeout to push for more, you don't go a full game like that unless the coach just didn't make adjustments.

                    Those are a lot of red marks for a coach, in my opinion.


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                    • Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
                      I may be misremembering, but I feel like Brown and staff actually made halftime adjustments that the players largely executed. Maybe not every time, but some of the times.

                      I'm not sure I've seen that with Mills.
                      yes.. brown should have got another year.

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                      • Did Brown suck as a coach? Yes.

                        Could Brown recruit talent? Yes.

                        Does Mills suck as a coach? Yes.

                        Can Mills recruit talent? Eh.
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                        • IB couldn't coach or inspire. PM can't either. Program is currently a dumpster fire. There is enough talent on this team to be moderately successful given our schedule if inspired and properly coached. We lack both. I said before the season started to watch the assist totals as it was probably our biggest weakness the previous season. Early on I was encouraged but now it's getting worse. Assists are once again a glaring issue along with laziness on the boards and defense much of the time. I still have hopes that this last game was a once and for all a huge wake up call. The players themselves have to have some pride in themselves and the program. The coach isn't going make it happen.

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                          • IB started Joe Pleasant over RCIV. You guys remember that? The only thing worse than his coaching was his interviews. He was an awful coach. We had to move on.

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                            • Just think of the players that have left and done well under other coaching

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                              • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                                Did Brown suck as a coach? Yes.

                                Could Brown recruit talent? Yes.

                                Does Mills suck as a coach? Yes.

                                Can Mills BUY talent? Eh.
                                fixed for u

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