Paul Mills Carmalized Marshmellow Seat

[ShockHat]

We did not fire IB. We bought him out of his very pricey contract and he has not hurt in the least bit financially. In fact, he effing won the lottery. If Mills did not want to be fired for cause if his teams could not compete successfully then he should not have signed this contract. Perhaps a good coach would have better legal representation in negotiating a contract.

Besides what I am proposing is a negotiated termination of Mills' contract by mutual agreement. With the ability to fire him for cause to be used as leverage to benefit WSU in he negotiations.

Although, I don't expect Wichita State to be in the running for well a established proven coach for the foreseeable future. We simply can't afford exposure to these massive buyouts. Perhaps a guy like Adrian Griffin would come in and agree to an incentive laden 3-year contract that would that would, with WSU's annual approval, rollover every year.

Either way WSU is not, as far as I can tell, in a position to shell out big bucks for a proven big time coach whether we fire Coach Mills this year or not.

Will our deep-pocketed boosters, to the extent they exist anymore, bail us out? Maybe, ADKS would have the best feel for that (or at least I hope he would).

All that said my expectations are that Coach Mills will be back for at least one more year.

If he’s back another year, I hate to say it, but the program is legit dead. I just won’t watch a single game. I’ll cancel everything I’ve got. Money is better spent elsewhere than the meh non conference and then a garbage losing streak for the conference.

[1972Shocker]

Let's wait till we see how baseball goes before closing down the athletic department.

I don't see the baseball program being capable of carrying the athletic department even in the best of times. But would love to be proven wrong on that.

[SB Shock]

If he’s back another year, I hate to say it, but the program is legit dead. I just won’t watch a single game. I’ll cancel everything I’ve got. Money is better spent elsewhere than the meh non conference and then a garbage losing streak for the conference.

You might as well cancel everything right now. They are not firing Mills when his contract goes to 2028.

[SB Shock]

I don't see the baseball program being capable of carrying the athletic department even in the best of times. But would love to be proven wrong on that.

Well, you keep basketball around to fund baseball. But, there is probably about 50/50 chance that baseball will be just as disappointing.

[BostonWu]

He would just get all pissy and defensive like he always does. He would try and preach patience, which has run out....even for me. And he would blame everything on being broke.

I personally don't give a **** what he has to say at this point.

Forgot, "Well I'm glad you asked... just a short 18 months ago we virtually had no NIL kitty thanks to that fuqtard boatwrong. I mean what did you really expect? Rome wasn't built in a day. And might I remind you, our team recorded a program record 3.782967321 GPA. And let's not forget our nationally prominent softball program. You see we're building things the right way. This is not a transactional based foundation because that doesn't last. Oh and our student athletes like it around here because our surveys say so. So in summary, I think given all that we like where we're headed and will continue to evaluate...Go Shox!"

[WuShock16]

Forgot, "Well I'm glad you asked... just a short 18 months ago we virtually had no NIL kitty thanks to that fuqtard boatwrong. I mean what did you really expect? Rome wasn't built in a day. And might I remind you, our team recorded a program record 3.782967321 GPA. And let's not forget our nationally prominent softball program. You see we're building things the right way. This is not a transactional based foundation because that doesn't last. Oh and our student athletes like it around here because our surveys say so. So in summary, I think given all that we like where we're headed and will continue to evaluate...Go Shox!"

C’mon, Boston. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.

There would be at least three “at the end of the day” cliches thrown in there as well.

Get it right, man!

[rjl]

This is a repost of mine from a week ago:

I will point out that section 20.1 of HCPM's agreement reads:

For purposes of this Agreement, the term “Cause” shall include any one or more of the following as determined by ICAA: (a) the refusal, failure, fraud, or dishonesty of Coach in any material respect to comply with the reasonable directives of the Director of Athletics or to perform the duties set forth in this Agreement

Appendix A outlines the duties which include:

As Head Men’s Basketball Coach, Coach’s duties and responsibilities include, without limitation:
1. Lead, supervise, evaluate, recruit, train, condition, discipline, educate, develop, promote, and coach the University's men's basketball team to compete successfully in the AAC and nationally.

It seems to me that HCPM has and is clearly failing to coach a team that is or can compete successfully in the AAC and nationally with next year looking even more questionable. No doubt HCPM would challenge this in court and I am not sure what Wichita State's chances to prevail would be if they terminated him for cause on this basis.

Coach Mills' employment contract can be terminated by mutual agreement of the parties. Perhaps ADKS should approach HCPM and let him now that he is not living up to the duties of his contract noted above and that he is considering terminating HCPM for cause. However, just to be gentlemanly about it WSU would agree to a $1 million buyout at the end of this season with no mitigation requirement.

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Not sure how one could argue that Mills is coaching MBB to compete successfully in the AAC and nationally. Would anyone like to take a shot at that.

If am ADKS I am having my attorney's reviewing this and I would probably be aggressive in pursuing it. Unless the deep pocketed boosters step up in huge way, and at this point why would they, then what does he really have to lose.

Personally, I have zero confidence that things will be any better next year. It could easily be even worse than this year.

That clause is vague, and vagaries in contracts are viewed against the drafter. Here, I can guarantee that this contract was drafted by WSU.

What does "compete successfully" mean? If it meant "win," why wasn't the word "win" put in the contract? So what does it mean to successfully compete? We've been competitive in several of our losses. The clause doesn't even specify that we need to be competitive in all of them. Just to compete successfully in the AAC. That could mean just one time.

I appreciate the spirit, but this is 100% a losing argument. Paul Loser Mills' contract is even worse for WSU than Brown's was. Had we waited until halfway through Brown's contract to let him go, we would have only owed him 50% of the remainder of his contract. For Mills? If we fire him halfway through (June 30, 2026), we still owe him 75% of the remainder.

This is just as much on Saal as it is everyone else. He let Paul Loser Mills pull the wool over him and sign him to this sweatheart contract that keeps this dumb loser employed for longer, or pays him a bigger parachute when the fraud is uncovered. What a rube. Kevin Sucker Saal and Paul Loser Mills are going to ruin this school.

[another shocker]

we have to stick by this guy. shockers right, shockers wrong

but show me (which means everybody) a serious basketball strategy, coach, please. i.e. let's "d" up these sum bitches, here on out! all it takes is effort and intent. take that ball away. just "d" them up, coach! buzzer to buzzer!

[cjp27]

Paul Mills record with Max Abmas 84-42. Without Max Abmas 48-70.
I was underwhelmed with this hire but kept an open mind. It's clear now that he's not going to get the job done. Short of someone putting up about 10M for buyouts, and NIL, I don't think there's any good solution right now.

[Shock Top]

I often post on forums about programs I no longer follow.

I said stopped watching; not following.

It’s like having a disappointing adult child. Sometimes you have to cut them loose and let them live with their own consequences.

That doesn’t mean you stop loving them though.

[Dan]

I’d say we’re in Scott Thompson territory. The funny thing is that we have better athletes than we had then but results are just as bad. That’s coaching. There’s no accountability for playing bad defense, probably because they haven’t been taught how to do it. The fundamentals on this team are just so bad, When’s the last time you saw Q do a hard post up? Never. He doesn’t know how. We don’t box out, we don’t get low and guard with our legs, hands up in faces. We make one handed passes, we dribble into double and triple teams and then force shots. There’s not enough players on our bench to replace guys when they play bad. It’s 100% coaching.

[JVShocker]

Just curious is all. With PM at the helm next year, if you had season tix right now, do you renew next year?

Y or N will do.

My vote: N

[Shocktoberfest]

We've had ours for almost 30 years. I would say N right now. But when Summer rolls around I'll probably cave. Hmmm. But maybe not. It's gonna be a blood bath I'm afraid.

[JEE]

As far as defense goes, these kids are seniors, shouldn’t have to be taught it’s about effort. Offensively they have to make shots, Washington has missed 13 shots from 3 feet or less in the last 3 games and are point guard runs with his head down like a 7 grader. Are so called star player has had several bad games in a row because he won’t pass. I know Zion and Joey have not impressed but got to give them a chance instead of Cortez and at some point you have to have Ballard,DeSants and Washington playing together on the front line.

[JEE]

If you’re looking for a new coach after next year, someone should look at Mark Adam’s the assistant at Mississippi