Kevin Saal Report Card

[Stickboy46]

Talk about cherry picking.

There’s a reason why you’re outnumbered on this and it’s not because the forum is positive in nature.

I’m going back to lurking.

Nice counter. The reason I'm outnumbered is many people were soooo ready to move on from IB (which to be clear .. we absolutely needed to) that they are burying their head in the sand thinking ANYONE would be better than him.

With Green, most people didn't want to move on from Hibbs. So they are more negative towards the replacement. I'm neutral on Hibbs as I think he had things going in the right direction .. but so did IB in his interim year and we saw how that worked out.

Whether people want to admit it or not. Mills and Greens resume are both very very similar.

[ShockerExpress]

Gonna throw one more piece of data out .. then I'll leave it be. Since last 3 years has been thrown out as a good example for Mills.

Last 3 years regular season Quad record

Q1: 0-13
Q2: 1-2
Q3: 13-5
Q4: 41-6

Yup .. so this 3 year run that is worthy of WSU basketball had ... 1 Q2 win and 0 Q1 wins in the regular season.

Yeah losing those buy games he had to play cuz he we at ORU sure shows a lot.

I wonder how many Q1 wins Marshall had at Winthrop. Bet you it’s a similar number.

How are the tournament wins not Q1?

Oh sorry you cherry picked that data. I see it now.

[Stickboy46]

Yeah losing those buy games he had to play cuz he we at ORU sure shows a lot.

I wonder how many Q1 wins Marshall had at Winthrop. Bet you it’s a similar number.

How are the tournament wins not Q1?

Oh sorry you cherry picked that data. I see it now.

So you are admitting he didn't win any key regular season games? Nothing that would have helped him make the tourney? Buy game or not .. gotta win games to be an at large team.

Once you are in the tournament, Quadrant isn't relevant to your resume .. but if you want throw those in .. it doesn't make it any better. 3 Q1 or Q2 wins in the last 3 years .. including the Sweet 16 run.

Q1: 2-15
Q2: 1-2
Q3: 13-5
Q4: 41-6

As far Marshall at Winthrop .. NET wasn't there at the time nor was the quadrant stuff. But here's a couple comparisons

Mills
6 years
.558 Win percentage
.63 Win Percentage in conference
1 Conference title (Summit)
Other Finishes - 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 5th
2 Post Season Appearances (one with a decent run, one with getting blown out in the first round)

Marshall at Winthrop
9 Years
.700 Win percentage
.813 Conference Win percentage
6 Conference Titles
Other Finishes - 2nd, 2nd, 3rd
7 Tournament appearances (1 win)

EDIT Found the Team sheets .. just last 3 years of his time there for comparison

Top 50: 4-10
51-100: 2-3

So yea .. Double the number of wins .. besides all the other differences.

[ShockerExpress]

So you are admitting he didn't win any key regular season games? Nothing that would have helped him make the tourney? Buy game or not .. gotta win games to be an at large team.

Once you are in the tournament, Quadrant isn't relevant to your resume .. but if you want throw those in .. it doesn't make it any better. 3 Q1 or Q2 wins in the last 3 years .. including the Sweet 16 run.

Q1: 2-15
Q2: 1-2
Q3: 13-5
Q4: 41-6

As far Marshall at Winthrop .. NET wasn't there at the time nor was the quadrant stuff. But here's a couple comparisons

Mills
6 years
.558 Win percentage
.63 Win Percentage in conference
1 Conference title (Summit)
Other Finishes - 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 5th
2 Post Season Appearances (one with a decent run, one with getting blown out in the first round)

Marshall at Winthrop
9 Years
.700 Win percentage
.813 Conference Win percentage
6 Conference Titles
Other Finishes - 2nd, 2nd, 3rd
7 Tournament appearances (1 win)

EDIT Found the Team sheets .. just last 3 years of his time there for comparison

Top 50: 4-10
51-100: 2-3

So yea .. Double the number of wins .. besides all the other differences.

Yeah 2 to 4….

Mills has double the tournament wins. 1 to 2… Lol

You hate Mills. We get it!!!!!!

[Stickboy46]

Yeah 2 to 4….

Mills has double the tournament wins. 1 to 2… Lol

You hate Mills. We get it!!!!!!

That's what you took out of ALL that data .. YIKES. That's embarrassing for your critical thinking skills.

You think Mills is the next 3G .. We get it.

[ShockerExpress]

That's what you took out of ALL that data .. YIKES. That's embarrassing for your critical thinking skills.

You think Mills is the next 3G .. We get it.

I don’t think that at all.

It’s the only data I was interested in. I was aware 3G and Winthrop owned the Big South.

[1972Shocker]

He is scheduled to be at the Shocker Caravan in Hutch on Monday at 5. If something does break on Monday that could be an interesting event.

Will you be attending this event or know of anyone who is? If so would greatly appreciate a report.

[ShockerFever]

It’s amazing how quickly basketball and baseball became comparable and interchangeable. Oh yea…fits the narrative.

Stick doesn’t know two shits about baseball.

[shoxlax]

Stick doesn’t know two shits about baseball.

Not sure our AD does either.

[RoyalShock]

Will you be attending this event or know of anyone who is? If so would greatly appreciate a report.

Yes, my son and I are attending. I will certainly report anything noteworthy

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

Not sure our AD does either.

Based on the hiring of a coach who hasn't coached a game at WSU yet? Reach much?

I am not a big fan of the Green hire but I am willing to see how it plays out before tossing Saal to the sharks.

[shoxlax]

Based on the hiring of a coach who hasn't coached a game at WSU yet? Reach much?

I am not a big fan of the Green hire but I am willing to see how it plays out before tossing Saal to the sharks.

You should know me better than to think I was doing anything other than seeking an opportunity for a punch line.

I’m sure he knows baseball, but after the way this was handled, I am convinced he underestimated the microscope this hire will have on it.

[SubGod22]

Guess Pelfrey is going to be on at 12:10

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

You should know me better than to think I was doing anything other than seeking an opportunity for a punch line.

I’m sure he knows baseball, but after the way this was handled, I am convinced he underestimated the microscope this hire will have on it.

I agree completely. Green will need to win and win right away. In fact, he better fill out this roster with a bunch of highly talented players or the seat will already be hot from Shocker fans. This won't be Pullman, WA.

[ShockerExpress]

I’m sure he knows baseball, but after the way this was handled, I am convinced he underestimated the microscope this hire will have on it.

This 100%.