Who Has Time To Work - NCAA Tournament Talk

[Kel Varnsen]

Two things we have learned this tournament:

The Committee has worked to keep all the money in the Power 5 leagues. Match ups are done to eliminate non-P5 schools as quickly as possible.

While the selection process is deeply flawed, this is an incredibly bold statement and has little evidence to back it up. Half of the committee this year was made up of those with mid-major affiliations. Are they purposely acting against the best interest of their school or the member schools in their conferences? That would be a hell of a story.

https://hoopshd.com/ncaa-selection-committee/

The Committee has also proven that they know little about college basketball nor did much homework.

Agreed, and it’s impossible for the committee to watch all of these teams throughout the season, which is why we need to remove the committee and use a more objective selection method. Which, as a result, leads to decisions made out of incompetence instead of malice.

Their plan has backfired because they assumed the teams from the Power 5 would rise to the occasion.

Again, like your first point and subsequent points later in your post, there’s no evidence for claiming the committee wants to see the Power 5 succeed at non-Power 5 schools’ expense beyond your feelings and biases as a fan of a non-Power 5 school.

To reiterate, it’s obvious the selection process is flawed, that those flaws typically hurt mid-majors the worst, and it can and should be fixed. But every time they are interviewed, it’s clear the selection committee and the committee chair are incompetent, not malicious.

Hanlon’s razor.

[AZ Shocker]

While the selection process is deeply flawed, this is an incredibly bold statement and has little evidence to back it up. Half of the committee this year was made up of those with mid-major affiliations. Are they purposely acting against the best interest of their school or the member schools in their conferences? That would be a hell of a story.

https://hoopshd.com/ncaa-selection-committee/

Agreed, and it’s impossible for the committee to watch all of these teams throughout the season, which is why we need to remove the committee and use a more objective selection method. Which, as a result, leads to decisions made out of incompetence instead of malice.



Again, like your first point and subsequent points later in your post, there’s no evidence for claiming the committee wants to see the Power 5 succeed at non-Power 5 schools’ expense beyond your feelings and biases as a fan of a non-Power 5 school.

To reiterate, it’s obvious the selection process is flawed, that those flaws typically hurt mid-majors the worst, and it can and should be fixed. But every time they are interviewed, it’s clear the selection committee and the committee chair are incompetent, not malicious.

Hanlon’s razor.

But the "eye test" Kel. The "eye test". Lol

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

While the selection process is deeply flawed, this is an incredibly bold statement and has little evidence to back it up. Half of the committee this year was made up of those with mid-major affiliations. Are they purposely acting against the best interest of their school or the member schools in their conferences? That would be a hell of a story.

https://hoopshd.com/ncaa-selection-committee/

Agreed, and it’s impossible for the committee to watch all of these teams throughout the season, which is why we need to remove the committee and use a more objective selection method. Which, as a result, leads to decisions made out of incompetence instead of malice.



Again, like your first point and subsequent points later in your post, there’s no evidence for claiming the committee wants to see the Power 5 succeed at non-Power 5 schools’ expense beyond your feelings and biases as a fan of a non-Power 5 school.

To reiterate, it’s obvious the selection process is flawed, that those flaws typically hurt mid-majors the worst, and it can and should be fixed. But every time they are interviewed, it’s clear the selection committee and the committee chair are incompetent, not malicious.

Hanlon’s razor.

Look at matchups. Mathematically impossible for how the P5 vs non-P5 teams to accidentally be matched up the way they were two tournaments in a row.

95% of Athletic Directors / Leaders at smaller schools want jobs at bigger schools. Those AD’s find their way onto committee then find themselves in bigger jobs.

Next year will be year three, which will help solidify the math.

[Kel Varnsen]

Look at matchups. Mathematically impossible for how the P5 vs non-P5 teams to accidentally be matched up the way they were two tournaments in a row.

95% of Athletic Directors / Leaders at smaller schools want jobs at bigger schools. Those AD’s find their way onto committee then find themselves in bigger jobs.

Next year will be year three, which will help solidify the math.

As far as six athletic directors or presidents choosing a school because they all think it might be part of the interview process for some random P5 school if they’re even considered, I mean it’s an opinion, for sure. But it’s way out there and without evidence.

[ShockerPrez]

I think the fact we went so long without a 16 seed advancing to 2 in the last 5 years means something. I remember before it happened no one really ever thought it would. College BBall has always been popular, and the supply of talent continues to be more than enough to fill all the rosters. The transfer portal works both ways, IMO. Guys want to play, not ride the bench. And if a guy has a choice to ride the pine at a P4 or play elsewhere, they can usually find an option to play.

Everything just continues to even out because there is just loads ofctalent out there. It's still slanted toward the p4, but when you are talking about the tourney, it's not insurmountable.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

As far as six athletic directors or presidents choosing a school because they all think it might be part of the interview process for some random P5 school if they’re even considered, I mean it’s an opinion, for sure. But it’s way out there and without evidence.

Well, if there was transparency inside the room, we would know more. There is not.

And no AD/Commish puts “Put Arizona State in instead of North Carolina”. But who got snubbed? Look at the next 6-8 teams considered. Not a non-P5 among them.

Then look at how the brackets were filled. Mid-Major against Mid-Major. Limiting amount of funds they could win. P5 against P5, due to gross volume of teams, was to try to ensure as much of the multi-billion dollar payout stayed within the key group. But it backfired this year after being very successful last year.

Outside of conversations with some people who have been in the room, there isn’t any proof. But remember that restaurants are now using 100% beef as a slogan. Why? Because for a long time they weren’t. If they will feed you fake beef, is it too far fetched to think they would rig a tournament that like the NFL is an “Entertainment” company?

[Kel Varnsen]

Well, if there was transparency inside the room, we would know more. There is not.

Which means if you’re making such a serious claim, you should have evidence. And you don’t.

And no AD/Commish puts “Put Arizona State in instead of North Carolina”. But who got snubbed? Look at the next 6-8 teams considered. Not a non-P5 among them.

Part of the problem this season, if you’d followed college basketball, was that the best mid-majors in one-bid leagues all won their conference tournaments, which hasn’t traditionally been the case. We can agree that the process is not favorable to mid-majors, but that’s clearly not where you’re stopping with the argument.

Then look at how the brackets were filled. Mid-Major against Mid-Major. Limiting amount of funds they could win. P5 against P5, due to gross volume of teams, was to try to ensure as much of the multi-billion dollar payout stayed within the key group. But it backfired this year after being very successful last year.

Three first round games took place between mid-majors. Two of those (St. Mary’s vs. VCU and San Diego State vs. Charleston) would have pitted two mid-majors against each other no matter what because the higher seed was guaranteed to play an opponent from a one-bid league. Which leaves only one matchup they could have avoided, Memphis vs. FAU. Hardly a conspiracy if they only did it one time when you claim it’s widespread.

Also, putting mid-majors against each other guarantees that at least one of them will go to the next round and earn a share for their conference.

Outside of conversations with some people who have been in the room, there isn’t any proof. But remember that restaurants are now using 100% beef as a slogan. Why? Because for a long time they weren’t. If they will feed you fake beef, is it too far fetched to think they would rig a tournament that like the NFL is an “Entertainment” company?

“Someone lied about something completely unrelated sometime, so that means that we’re being lied to, even if I have no evidence.”

Great theory. I’m sure a lot of people will jump on board with the airtight cases that the NCAA is purposely excluding mid-majors from the tournament and the NFL is rigging the playoffs.

[Kung Wu]

Y'all rootin on K-State or FAU?

[Shock Top]

Y'all rootin on K-State or FAU?

EMAW

[DUShock]

EMAW as well

[shockerfan]

Y'all rootin on K-State or FAU?

Rooting for Tang. I just like that guy.

[RoyalShock]

Even though I also like Tang, Go Owls!

[Kel Varnsen]

FAU. I find KSU fans insufferable, even though I like Tang.

[shoxlax]

Anytime KU fans are miserable I am happy.

[Kung Wu]

All good answers. :)