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  • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
    Again, if someone is going to go to the highest bidder, he's not the type of guy we want.

    I don't think Max choosing Texas had anything to do with who was willing to pay the most. Texas made much more sense on a number of other levels.

    Sure, if a couple of programs offer similar situations and you're struggling to choose, maybe the dollar amount does sway you, but I really doubt that all of these players are simply trying to find the most money. Say what you want, but a lot of these kids aren't stupid enough to just follow money. They still want to play. They still want to win. They still want to set themselves up to potentially play professionally.

    I'm not saying NIL doesn't matter, but it's not the one and only thing that does. If it's the top priority for a player, I'd pass right there and move on to someone else that can make some money for themselves but still actually cares about more than just $$$. If it's all about money, the basketball will suffer.
    Maybe in the future we won't let kids use us as a bidding tool. Make them get their best offer and then see if we can beat it. Texas beat us at that game this time around.

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    • Strong signing yesterday. While the waiver deal sucks ; 2 years is 2 years whether it starts this year or next. I like Mills chance of putting together a successful packet to send off the the committee for waiver decisioning vs IB’s.

      Second best pickup so far in my mind after Beverly. DeGreys video is very reminiscent of Trey Wade. Solid all around glue guy with some scoring pop. And the injury was listed as just a sprain. Missouri was really good and he more so fell out of the rotation being behind some studs.

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      • Hmmm. A little bird told me KP's little brother is coming to Sunrise this year and that KP is sticking around. We shall see.

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        • Originally posted by Shocktoberfest View Post
          Hmmm. A little bird told me KP's little brother is coming to Sunrise this year and that KP is sticking around. We shall see.
          This would be the biggest addition yet
          Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
          RIP Guy Always A Shocker
          Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
          ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
          Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
          Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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          • Originally posted by LetsGoShockers2021 View Post
            Strong signing yesterday. While the waiver deal sucks ; 2 years is 2 years whether it starts this year or next. I like Mills chance of putting together a successful packet to send off the the committee for waiver decisioning vs IB’s.
            What would he get the waiver for? I don't think he qualifies for any of the exceptions that now exist.
            Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
            RIP Guy Always A Shocker
            Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
            ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
            Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
            Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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            • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post

              What would he get the waiver for? I don't think he qualifies for any of the exceptions that now exist.
              I think Taylor's article mentioned a waiver based on his injuries. One of the "considerations for waiver" by the NCAA relates to physical and mental health.

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              • I think our reputation of a poor NIL is hurting recruiting. I have heard that some players did not receive what was promised. We need a second option for a NIL collective.

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                • Page 10 has waiver guidelines and standards

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                  • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post

                    This would be the biggest addition yet
                    You're spot on. From a metrics perspective, if you mess around with team projections on Bart Torvik adding Pohto bumps WSU up ~50 spots.

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                    • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post

                      Because not everyone, including kids, are solely motivated by money. Fit and development should still matter to those who want to play professionally. Winning still matters. Playing in post season still matters.

                      $250K isn't money that can/will permanently change your life. Would you take that for a year and put yourself in a situation where you aren't playing as much or progressing as much and ruin your chance at making much more than that playing professionally? Some kids would. Smart kids wouldn't. That's massively short-term thinking.

                      Now, if you have no plans of playing professionally and are going to go into the 'real' world upon graduation, maybe it could have a little more influence. That would be a nice bonus. But I doubt kids that don't even think about professional basketball are getting that kind of money in NIL anyway.

                      If you're a one and done type of player and it's not going to matter where you play college ball, then maybe you do go to the highest bidder. But very few people are guaranteed lottery picks. Most players know they need to develop and grow and get exposure. Most players still want to play in March and would take less NIL funds to put them into a situation to do such things.

                      If Jacksonville State offers you $100K and Wichita is offering you $50K, are you chasing the extra money to Jacksonville or going to a place with a better environment, assumed better coaching, a better conference, better exposure and a better chance of playing in March?

                      Maybe I and those I know are just wired differently. I've never been one to chase money if it meant putting myself in situations I won't like or enjoy. I know a lot of people, even in our youth, that thought that way. I have niece's who have chosen jobs that mean more to them and sacrificed extra money to do so. I'm not saying money chasers don't exist, but it's not as overwhelmingly prevalent as some seem to make it out to be.
                      The flawed logic is Jax is outbidding us. The reality is Texas, Kstate, KU, Houston, Memphis is outbidding us. These programs offer plenty of perks beyond money (Memphis might be the exception).

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                      • Originally posted by shocker43 View Post

                        I think Taylor's article mentioned a waiver based on his injuries. One of the "considerations for waiver" by the NCAA relates to physical and mental health.
                        We've seen how this plays out. I have zero expectations it will be granted.

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                        • Originally posted by Shocktoberfest View Post
                          Hmmm. A little bird told me KP's little brother is coming to Sunrise this year and that KP is sticking around. We shall see.

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                          • Originally posted by TrackSuitAndTie View Post

                            He's from Texas too
                            Wow. What a coincidence?

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                            • If Pohto is coming back, last two schollies have to be a 4-man and a guard who can create shots for himself and others.

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                              • Still need PG

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