Realignment Carousel Spins Up again (USC and UCLA to Big 10)

[WstateU]

But I'd bet they'd love to play FAU, North Texas, and UAB. All three finished in the Top 40 of NET. Charlotte was also a Top 100 team. Memphis was a Top 25 NET team. Tulane and Wichita could/should be Top 100 NET teams.

The A10 had three Top 100 NET teams and VCU was one of them.

NET at the end of last season would rank

13 FAU
22 Memphis
30 North Texas
39 UAB
54 VCU
98 Charlotte
107 Tulane
110 Wichita
123 Temple
159 USF
188 Rice
190 ECU
209 SMU
284 UTSA
324 Tulsa

Compared to the A10

54 VCU
77 Dayton
97 SLU
132 Fordham
137 Duquesne
139 George Mason
145 Davidson
160 Richmond
200 St. Bonnie
201 St. Joe
203 UMASS
211 Geo. Washington
223 La Salle
263 Rhode Island
269 Loyola

The AAC would have nine teams ahead of Fordham.

Now the A10 can be better and has been. But also, if the Big East decides to expand two of those top teams (Dayton/SLU) are on the short list.

[Shoxing Me Softly]

I’m sure VCU would love to join a conference so they can play Rice & UTSA every year

Maybe going from 250k payout to 2.2 million a year is an incentive. Also like half the A-10 isn’t garbage too.

[SubGod22]

I’m sure VCU would love to join a conference so they can play Rice & UTSA every year

But I'd bet they'd love to play FAU, North Texas, and UAB. All three finished in the Top 40 of NET. Charlotte was also a Top 100 team. Memphis was a Top 25 NET team. Tulane and Wichita could/should be Top 100 NET teams.

The A10 had three Top 100 NET teams and VCU was one of them.

NET at the end of last season would rank

13 FAU
22 Memphis
30 North Texas
39 UAB
54 VCU
98 Charlotte
107 Tulane
110 Wichita
123 Temple
159 USF
188 Rice
190 ECU
209 SMU
284 UTSA
324 Tulsa

Compared to the A10

54 VCU
77 Dayton
97 SLU
132 Fordham
137 Duquesne
139 George Mason
145 Davidson
160 Richmond
200 St. Bonnie
201 St. Joe
203 UMASS
211 Geo. Washington
223 La Salle
263 Rhode Island
269 Loyola

The AAC would have nine teams ahead of Fordham.

Now the A10 can be better and has been. But also, if the Big East decides to expand two of those top teams (Dayton/SLU) are on the short list.

[DanielBryan]

I’m sure VCU would love to join a conference so they can play Rice & UTSA every year

[WstateU]

The echo between the stadium and arena was so cool!

I sure miss it...

[ShockBand]

My wife and I would go up on the south end of the "Shocker Mountain" ramps to watch you guys and gals make your entrance before going to our seats. We always enjoyed that.

The echo between the stadium and arena was so cool!

[1972Shocker]

Yeah, I marched in the last WSUMB in 1986. And even with the pretty sparse crowds it certainly made for a fun fall atmosphere. I fondly remember lining up in the band by Duerksen for the march to the stadium, leaves falling, alums milling by, great times.

My wife and I would go up on the south end of the "Shocker Mountain" ramps to watch you guys and gals make your entrance before going to our seats. We always enjoyed that.

[TrackSuitAndTie]

VCU has finished outside the top 75 on Bart Torvik ONCE since 2008. That blows SMU basketball out of the water as a replacement school.

[Kel Varnsen]

It would be a fun experiment. And you'd still have the option of adding scholarships at some point and moving up a level if the support is there.

I feel like if we ever added football this would be the way to go.

I will say this, schools like Dayton have the advantage of a population in their region/state that we definitely do not have.

[Stickboy46]

Makes perfect sense for everyone involved

[ShockBand]

It would probably bring enrollment up in a couple ways. Like you said, guys who want to play football that couldn't get a scholarship and would otherwise enroll at another school that has football, and eventually more young people that are looking for the traditional college campus life.

When Texas State played FCS football, the majority of the fanbase was students who had been partying Friday night, tailgating Saturday before the game, then go to the game, Then party again Saturday night. I think that's all something WSU kind of lacks.

Yeah, I marched in the last WSUMB in 1986. And even with the pretty sparse crowds it certainly made for a fun fall atmosphere. I fondly remember lining up in the band by Duerksen for the march to the stadium, leaves falling, alums milling by, great times.

[TrackSuitAndTie]

[Atxshoxfan]

It would be a fun experiment to see if it would get any traction. And even though we aren't as populous as Ohio, I would bet there would be a decent number of kids who couldn't quite make it at the scholarship football level that would still be interested in playing college ball.

It would probably bring enrollment up in a couple ways. Like you said, guys who want to play football that couldn't get a scholarship and would otherwise enroll at another school that has football, and eventually more young people that are looking for the traditional college campus life.

When Texas State played FCS football, the majority of the fanbase was students who had been partying Friday night, tailgating Saturday before the game, then go to the game, Then party again Saturday night. I think that's all something WSU kind of lacks.

[ShockBand]

It would be a fun experiment. And you'd still have the option of adding scholarships at some point and moving up a level if the support is there.

I don't know if it is accurate, but what I found online for their operating expenses for football was about $1.3 million. I'm guessing at least 50-60% of that is coaches and staff salaries. The Pioneer League is spread all over the country, so travel I'm sure is pricey for 5-6 flights a year. It stated revenue of about $250,000. Single game ticket prices are cheap! All or nearly all GA, $10 for adults and $5 for kids. That probably helps getting people in the seats!

It would be a fun experiment to see if it would get any traction. And even though we aren't as populous as Ohio, I would bet there would be a decent number of kids who couldn't quite make it at the scholarship football level that would still be interested in playing college ball.

[SubGod22]

I happened to look because I thought Dayton played football. They do, but in the Pioneer League, which does not give scholarships. But in looking at their team pic, they clearly have no trouble getting players. I wonder what the cost is for Dayton to play football at that level.



They appear to get decent support, keeping in mind their stadium seats about 11.000.



Would Shocker Nation support enough at this level to have the fun of football on fall Saturday afternoon?

It would be a fun experiment. And you'd still have the option of adding scholarships at some point and moving up a level if the support is there.