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  • Big brain future thinking:

    - UK fires HCJC because of fan unrest for not winning a second national title.

    - WSU decides to go in a different direction from HCIB.

    - ADKS uses his relationship with JC to bring him in as the new HC of WSU.
    The Assman

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    • Originally posted by Shock Top View Post
      Big brain future thinking:

      - UK fires HCJC because of fan unrest for not winning a second national title.

      - WSU decides to go in a different direction from HCIB.

      - ADKS uses his relationship with JC to bring him in as the new HC of WSU.
      Five years ago, I’d have said OH, F*** NO!

      Now…I’m not opposed to it. You know the Beakers would be camped out in NCAA HQ, making up violation allegations.
      78-65

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      • RH: New AD Understand's Basketball's Stature In Kansas

        "We can out-perform resources," Saal said. "We can develop a plan for closing gaps. We can develop a comprehensive facilities master plan to engage our coaches and student-athletes to learn what is needed, what is missing from a player-development perspective and from a recruiting perspective. When you accomplish those two areas, you've got a really good sense for what that pathway looks like."


        He is the key transitional figure for Wichita State athletics in a time of monumental change at the university, in the conference and NCAA athletics.

        "We can all define where we want to be – we can say we want to have championship-level programs," Saal said. "What does that mean? Until you're able to develop a scale, understand where you are, it starts with a deep dive into every detail, every piece of data you can get that relates to how our sport programs sit, relatively speaking, to our peers in the American."

        He arrives after the budget-wrecking pandemic challenges from 2020-21, and in the middle of the transfer portal and name, image, and likeness issues. (And the Gregg Marshall fiasco including the overly generous contract given to Isaac Brown)

        His description of the task is to get Wichita State's resources into the best American neighborhood. The Shockers don't, he explained, need to live in the nicest house. They do need to be in the neighborhood.

        "We can out-perform resources," he said. "We can develop a plan for closing gaps. We can develop a comprehensive facilities master plan to engage our coaches and student-athletes to learn what is needed, what is missing from a player-development perspective and from a recruiting perspective. When you accomplish those two areas, you've got a really good sense for what that pathway looks like."

        Where Wichita State finds itself in 2022 is dramatically different from 2017 in the athletic facilities and across campus.

        While the athletic department grappled with its new conference, the university boosted enrollment past 16,000 and expanded the Innovation Campus. It did so while working under two interim presidents, former president Jay Golden and, since May 2021, Muma. Add in COVID-19's stress and the departure of basketball coach Gregg Marshall and it's been a tumultuous, exhausting time.

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        • Originally posted by WuShock16 View Post

          Five years ago, I’d have said OH, F*** NO!

          Now…I’m not opposed to it. You know the Beakers would be camped out in NCAA HQ, making up violation allegations.
          “It’s all about championships” is meant to be a wake up call for IB. If he can’t figure it out after this season, that will be the line they use as they are escorting him out the front door of Koch Arena

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          • Originally posted by bleed yellow View Post

            “It’s all about championships” is meant to be a wake up call for IB. If he can’t figure it out after this season, that will be the line they use as they are escorting him out the front door of Koch Arena
            Might be one more year than that unless ADKS is an amazing fundraiser ... don't think we can afford to be paying 3 coaches and 2 ADs

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            • "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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              • Originally posted by WstateU View Post
                Awesome. A great Coach with a great Athletic Director. I think we will see more championships in Shocker basketball, Let's go Shocks.



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                • Originally posted by TheShocktocles View Post

                  Awesome. A great Coach with a great Athletic Director. I think we will see more championships in Shocker basketball, Let's go Shocks.



                  As soon as we get a great coach, maybe
                  Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
                  RIP Guy Always A Shocker
                  Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
                  ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
                  Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
                  Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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                  • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post

                    As soon as we get a great coach, maybe
                    Tocles might have hit the sauce a little early this morning.
                    I have nothing against his optimism and wish we had more of it (I’m all for IB pulling a 180), but I’ll have to see it to believe it.

                    Go IB!
                    "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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                    • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post

                      As soon as we get a great coach, maybe
                      LMAO. I thought you were talking about Eric Wedge. He is the coach that lost 11 straight games. A losing record this year. Going 2 and barbeque in the AAC tournament. Losing an All American pitcher to the transfer portal. And attendance is a joke. A 7000 seat stadium with attendance of less than 100 people at the games. I saw a game on television this year and the stadium looked like a ghost town. Yet you want to talk about Brown. I loved that you have showed us all your DOUBLE STANDARD. The chosen one would be proud of you.

                      Next you will tell us Windmills cause cancer.

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                      • Originally posted by TheShocktocles View Post


                        Next you will tell us Windmills cause cancer.
                        I was about to joke that you can't prove Windmills don't cause cancer.. But in my old age and wisdom I googled to check myself first, and it turns out studies have been done to prove windmills don't cause cancer.. It made me laugh.

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                        • Originally posted by TheShocktocles View Post

                          LMAO. I thought you were talking about Eric Wedge. He is the coach that lost 11 straight games. A losing record this year. Going 2 and barbeque in the AAC tournament. Losing an All American pitcher to the transfer portal. And attendance is a joke. A 7000 seat stadium with attendance of less than 100 people at the games. I saw a game on television this year and the stadium looked like a ghost town. Yet you want to talk about Brown. I loved that you have showed us all your DOUBLE STANDARD. The chosen one would be proud of you.

                          Next you will tell us Windmills cause cancer.
                          The baseball program has been a five alarm blaze ever since the firing of Stephenson. I’m not even sure what it would take to get them back to 500. Definitely a lot more than a good coach. As for IB, not sure what was going on last season with his coaching philosophies, but I highly doubt we see him continue whatever that was last year. Lol. Worst case scenario is, he truly is a level below Bruce Weber and we are stuck with him for another three years.

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                          • Originally posted by bleed yellow View Post

                            The baseball program has been a five alarm blaze ever since the firing of Stephenson. I’m not even sure what it would take to get them back to 500. Definitely a lot more than a good coach. As for IB, not sure what was going on last season with his coaching philosophies, but I highly doubt we see him continue whatever that was last year. Lol. Worst case scenario is, he truly is a level below Bruce Weber and we are stuck with him for another three years.
                            I wish that were the worst case scenario

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                            • Originally posted by bleed yellow View Post

                              Worst case scenario is, he truly is a level below Bruce Weber and we are stuck with him for another three years.
                              I maintain the worst thing for any program is a moderately effective coach aka Weber. A bad coach will be gone quickly, a mediocre coach can linger indefinitely.

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                              • Originally posted by TheShocktocles View Post

                                LMAO. I thought you were talking about Eric Wedge. He is the coach that lost 11 straight games. A losing record this year. Going 2 and barbeque in the AAC tournament. Losing an All American pitcher to the transfer portal. And attendance is a joke. A 7000 seat stadium with attendance of less than 100 people at the games. I saw a game on television this year and the stadium looked like a ghost town. Yet you want to talk about Brown. I loved that you have showed us all your DOUBLE STANDARD. The chosen one would be proud of you.

                                Next you will tell us Windmills cause cancer.
                                Are you high?
                                Deuces Valley.
                                ... No really, deuces.
                                ________________
                                "Enjoy the ride."

                                - a smart man

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