Gregg Marshall Reprimanded by MVC

[cjp27]

I'm curious if anyone has seen or posted the content of the reprimand. I've looked around and haven't seen it anywhere.

[WuDrWu]

That was the reprimand '27. There was nothing else to it.....at least in writing.

[SubGod22]

And even if he could, Elgin doesn't have the balls to suspend 3G for the NCAAs.

[1972Shocker]

For those thinking this reprimand will make him want to leave even more, may not be considering that prospective ADs are going to be just as turned off by it. I'd say his chances of leaving, especially to South Carolina, just dropped 10-20%, if not more.

I really doubt that it will have much of an impact at all as far as prospective AD's are concerned. If Coach Marshall honestly believes he and his teams are disrespected in the league than that coudl be a factor when he considers the offers that are no doubt coming his way. How big of a factor is difficult to say.

[WstateU]

I know I’m in the minority on this issue, however I believe the MVC had little choice in this matter. When rules/policies are blatantly broken, there needs to be some type of consequences. If Elgin decides to ignore the policy, all MVC coaches have an open door invitation to cross the line whenever they feel it’s warranted. A public reprimand is only a ‘hand slap’ and doesn’t mean squat in the grand scheme of things.

[Capitol Shock II]

I really doubt that it will have much of an impact at all as far as prospective AD's are concerned. If Coach Marshall honestly believes he and his teams are disrespected in the league than that coudl be a factor when he considers the offers that are no doubt coming his way. How big of a factor is difficult to say.

Hell I've thought that for a long time.

[rjl]

Anyone outside of Wichita has to admire the devotion and support HCGM has. In fact, I would bet there is quite a bit of envy, from other coaches.

From a compensation, facilities & support, it is indeed a top level job.


However, no one person is bigger than the system.


GM crossed the line last Saturday and although most of you refuse to acknowledge or accept it, there had to be consequences.

If he felt his team was jobbed (or use whatever term you like), there was a proper and professional way to handle and address it.

Blowing up in the bowels of Scotttrade in front of individuals, i.e. certain journalists who shouldn't have been witnesses, was the wrong approach.


Sure, GM is a fiery guy who loves his kids and everybody knows it. But engaging in shouting match with the leagues top dog in public was not his best moment.

He knows it and after some time to calm down and reflect upon the whole issue, hopefully will learn to handle future issues with better composure and restraint.


That is all.

This might all be true. In fact, it surely is.

BUT. If I was a player for him, and I saw what my coach said after the game and what he's said this week and what the Valley has had to do to him in return, you had better BELIEVE that I am going to be on a mission to beat the absolute **** out of any team I play from here on out.

[ShockRef]

This might all be true. In fact, it surely is.

BUT. If I was a player for him, and I saw what my coach said after the game and what he's said this week and what the Valley has had to do to him in return, you had better BELIEVE that I am going to be on a mission to beat the absolute **** out of any team I play from here on out.

If this is the case, then something good may come out of this when all is said and done.

[shoxlax]

Cards, my fellow fanatics, cards.

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

Sure, HCGM broke the rules. Sure, he needed to be reprimanded. But I like the passion and the grit. He's a straight shooter who tells it like it is, and he's not going to lay down for anybody. It's a lost art in this age of over the top political correctness.

[The Mad Hatter]

Anyone outside of Wichita has to admire the devotion and support HCGM has. In fact, I would bet there is quite a bit of envy, from other coaches.

From a compensation, facilities & support, it is indeed a top level job.


However, no one person is bigger than the system.


GM crossed the line last Saturday and although most of you refuse to acknowledge or accept it, there had to be consequences.

If he felt his team was jobbed (or use whatever term you like), there was a proper and professional way to handle and address it.

Blowing up in the bowels of Scotttrade in front of individuals, i.e. certain journalists who shouldn't have been witnesses, was the wrong approach.


Sure, GM is a fiery guy who loves his kids and everybody knows it. But engaging in shouting match with the leagues top dog in public was not his best moment.

He knows it and after some time to calm down and reflect upon the whole issue, hopefully will learn to handle future issues with better composure and restraint.


That is all.

That might be a nice theory were it not for the fact that using the "proper and professional way" of handling it has be proven to be completely ineffective. This program did the "proper and professional" thing of bowing to the conference on the 1.9 second issue. What did that get us? Absolutely nothing. Not only that, but a couple years later, we get jobbed again.

Even as an official, you must recognize that the system of not publicly criticizing officials only works if the league takes action to deal with poor officiating. The reason the league can prohibit criticism is that they are protecting the integrity of the game behind the scenes. If they consistently fail to take action on such matters, they lose their right to restrict criticism.

[WSUwatcher]

I agree that Marshall went too far in public and had to be formally punished in some way. But Rocky had it exactly right when he said that Marshall's comments can't help inspiring his players -- so in that sense it's much like a coach deliberately getting a T to fire up his team, a time-honored strategy that often helps the cause. Marshall just did it on a different stage where his words were picked up by the media rather than one specific ref.

Personally, I also like that Sexton allowed him to include in his statement that his feelings about the game hadn't changed. Not the most gracious inclusion, maybe, but even if he hadn't said it everyone would have known it was true. There's a difference between apologizing for conduct or words and apologizing for beliefs. In a situation like this, the first is appropriate, the second is not -- even our ever-expanding government has yet to roll out thought police.

[ShockRef]

That might be a nice theory were it not for the fact that using the "proper and professional way" of handling it has be proven to be completely ineffective. This program did the "proper and professional" thing of bowing to the conference on the 1.9 second issue. What did that get us? Absolutely nothing. Not only that, but a couple years later, we get jobbed again.

Even as an official, you must recognize that the system of not publicly criticizing officials only works if the league takes action to deal with poor officiating. The reason the league can prohibit criticism is that they are protecting the integrity of the game behind the scenes. If they consistently fail to take action on such matters, they lose their right to restrict criticism.

TMH,
Professionalism and conducting business in a dignified manner is the only way to conduct business, albeit in an extremely emotional arena.

It may feel good to raise your voice in a public forum but maintaining composure and leading by example is the better policy.

Especially, when it comes to long term effects and impact.

[GarH]

So HCGM gets a reprimand for comments Elgin doesn't like, but ISU's HC puts his goon Wilkens on Stutz to assault him and that's OK with Elgin?

[RoyalShock]

So HCGM gets a reprimand for comments Elgin doesn't like, but ISU's HC puts his goon Wilkens on Stutz to assault him and that's OK with Elgin?

How can Elgin prove that enough to issue a reprimand? Unless Jank admitted to doing that, it's all speculation, no matter how obvious it appears.