2021-22 Basketball happenings around the American Athletic!

[myopicraiderfan]

The one bright side if they poach Memphis and Boise is that the MWC would lose it's best football school. They might be more open to a merger of some sort for survival (would be a 16 team conference). That could be a pretty good BB conference. Colorado State, Utah State, San Diego State, New Mexico, UNLV, Nevada, Wyoming ... all of those teams are normally above average teams. Wouldn't be the home run of the Big East, but would still be the best possible scenario from a BB standpoint unless Aresco opens the door for BB only adds.

If we lose 4 to the B12, maybe Navy and us, SMU, and Tulsa can join the MWC. A division with us, SMU, Tulsa, Air Force, CSU , Wyoming, and New Mexico wouldn’t be bad.

[shock]

What is the absolute worst that can happen? Either the SEC, ACC, B1G, PAC-12 and maybe the B12 leave the NCAA and create a new college athletics association, or they stay and the NCAA reclassifies based on football and the AAC falls apart along with every other conference.

Big whoop

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

If only some had had the foresight, like, 25 years ago to restart Shocker Football.

Then we would have stayed in the Mo Valley for basketball as there was zero chance we would have been competitive.

2005…… hmmmmmm.

[calfan]

I don't feel as pessimistic as some on here.

I remember some on here a few weeks ago were predicting the end of the Big 12.

Now you are predicting the end of the AAC.

I'm not betting or predicting the end of anything just yet.

[Veritas]

I didn’t care for the bury our football heads in the sand mentality when the 1986 decision was made.

The remodel of the football stadium resulted in a 30k seat high school stadium and about as bare bones and uninspiring as it gets. The 1970 disaster had nothing to do with the 1986 decision (look at Marshall) and the recent resurgence of the UAB program provides a template in getting football back on track.

We’re committed to BB and need to make it count as essentially we gave up football to be ultra competitive on the national stage in basketball.

Interesting article on the UAB football program just in case our BB program is terrible and we start thinking of bringing football back…

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/there-are-comeback-stories-and-then-there-is-bill-clark-and-uab-football/2018/10/17/978fa314-d22d-11e8-8c22-fa2ef74bd6d6_story.html%3foutputType=amp

[myopicraiderfan]

I don't feel as pessimistic as some on here.

I remember some on here a few weeks ago were predicting the end of the Big 12.

Now you are predicting the end of the AAC.

I'm not betting or predicting the end of anything just yet.

If we lost 4 to the B12, we would still have a better tv contract than the MVC, the AAC NCAA credits, and a percentage of the exit fees. We should dominate the conference with Tulsa and SMU. Who knows if the alliance holds between the B10 and Pac12 or what happens when the ACC's GoR comes close to expiring. If we continue our success, we will have options.

[shoxlax]

So what’s wrong with the A-10? Dayton, VCU, Davidson, St Louis, Richmond, UMass. I’d take that over what we’d be left with in the AAC as it stands. Zero football concerns.

[WuTheOne]

So what’s wrong with the A-10? Dayton, VCU, Davidson, St Louis, Richmond, UMass. I’d take that over what we’d be left with in the AAC as it stands. Zero football concerns.

There are a couple of problems with that

1. Boatright doesn't seem like much of a mover and shaker in regards to conference affiliation
2. AAC exit fees
3. Our last two NCAA appearances are losses to Marshall and Drake

[Dan]

I don’t know about most of you on here, but there’s a lot of debate about current value of a college education. I have a daughter applying to schools now and many colleges are quoting $65k+ per year for tuition, room and board. I don’t know how many majors are worth $250k + for an undergraduate degree. These colleges need donors to keep giving. A decline in competitive sports doesn’t help keep the alumni base excited about giving money. With the way technology is taking over the world and the rate at which everything is changing, there’s not going to be a lot of good job opportunities outside of engineering and medical degrees, How do colleges justify charging a kid $250k to be a teacher or liberal arts major? This is about so much more than basketball affiliation.

[ShockerFever]

There are a couple of problems with that

1. Boatright doesn't seem like much of a mover and shaker in regards to conference affiliation
2. AAC exit fees
3. Our last two NCAA appearances are losses to Marshall and Drake

All pretty weak points but your last one is about as weak and irrelevant as they come. Not even sure what the point was of it, except for maybe a troll masking as WSU fan and getting their “zing” in.

[ShockTalk]

So what’s wrong with the A-10? Dayton, VCU, Davidson, St Louis, Richmond, UMass. I’d take that over what we’d be left with in the AAC as it stands. Zero football concerns.

I have not watched a complete (or even just 2/3s) of a football game in 5 or 6 years. I'm a basketball/baseball person, like all sports in general, and follow all sports at WSU.

The biggest reason I liked the AAC basketball move ...... just moved. Cincy and Houston. Memphis, Tulsa, and SMU were a bonus.
Also, I liked the big upgraded in baseball.

However, the AAC has become a shell of itself and picking off a few new schools won't change that.

I also like the MWC: SDS, Utah St, Air Force, UNLV, CSU. But the 3 time zone thing is a bit of a hang up and most of all, they too are in some flux.

We are a basketball school. So are the Big East and Atl-10.

While there are teams in the Big East I don't care much for, they also have ones I do like. I'd prefer they expand to 14 or more, but I wouldn't watch the paint dry if they'd offer us.

I think I'd be good with the Atl-10 as well....Dayton, VCU, St Louis, George Mason, UMass. Although, they have a few schools who seem to be perennial bottom feeders. Pretty certain they would offer.

Unless the Big East happens to offer, I think we're in a wait and see mode (if we can afford to be in that mode).

[WuTheOne]

All pretty weak points but your last one is about as weak and irrelevant as they come. Not even sure what the point was of it, except for maybe a troll masking as WSU fan and getting their “zing” in.

we lost to F'ing Drake. That didn't look good on a resume when we were in the valley and it doesn't look good on the resume of the AAC champion. We are losing to no-names early in the tourney. Creighton got into the Big Priest with similar results, but they perfectly fit the model of that league. WSU does not.

AAC exit fees are a weak argument? We're going to come up with $10 mill by moving to the A-10? Dang! We struggled to come up with $2.5 mill to get into the AAC. Times have been a little tough on the financial end lately.

If you're looking for the troll in the thread, grab a mirror.

[bleed yellow]

Hopefully it’s safe to say that after all this if WSU sees a situation where they can join a conference with Cincinnati, UCF and Houston that they will be able to say “Well that totally isn’t fu***** worth it”

[AZ Shocker]

I'm curious to know what commentator and champion of Shocker basketball Mark Adams thinks about all of this. I wonder if he may be someone who starts the "talk" nationally of Wichita and the Big East in the same sentence.

I know he's a Dayton guy (which is fine and all)...but maybe he gets some conversations going about how the two schools should be in that conference.

[ShockerFever]

we lost to F'ing Drake. That didn't look good on a resume when we were in the valley and it doesn't look good on the resume of the AAC champion. We are losing to no-names early in the tourney. Creighton got into the Big Priest with similar results, but they perfectly fit the model of that league. WSU does not.

AAC exit fees are a weak argument? We're going to come up with $10 mill by moving to the A-10? Dang! We struggled to come up with $2.5 mill to get into the AAC. Times have been a little tough on the financial end lately.

If you're looking for the troll in the thread, grab a mirror.

KU got bounced by multiple Valley schools, Patriot League schools, and Colonial schools in the last 15 years. Maybe they aren’t quite up to speed for a power conference.

Losing to Drake, while embarrassing, will have no impact on any future conference plans. Dilweed.