How about Wichita State and Creighton to the MWC.

[Kung Wu]

Since this is all in fun....add a couple more teams. Tulsa and Utah St along with WSU and CU. Now that's a conference I could get excited about.

MMmm mmm mmm. Starting to sound like the Big West conference.

[ShockTalk]

MMmm mmm mmm. Starting to sound like the Big West conference.

In what way?

[Kung Wu]

In what way?

I think a conference shaping up like you, @StillCJ:, and @SubGod22: (in other threads) describe would compete nicely with the Big East in terms of annual NCAA appearances and success.

[StillCJ]

I would be down for Utah State, and Tulsa: especially Tulsa.

Our conference leaders are looking at a conference merger with CUSA. I don't know about that because after CUSA got raided they were left with several schools that don't bring much for basketball. If they could convince some A-10 teams(Temple, UMass, Xavier) to join, I think they could present a strong eastern division in a great big league.

I would love to see a MWC with Tulsa and Utah State in it though. Both of those schools are traditionally strong at hoops.

Real time R.P.I. is the site I looked at the has the MWC at 5th in R.P.I., above the ACC. Other sites project us to finish fourth this year.

The MWC is a really fun league. It kind of sucks that UNLV gets to cost the conference tournament every year, but I get to road trip to Vegas for 4 days every year in March. They're thinking about building an N.B.A. arena in Vegas so the games are played on a neutral court, but Wyoming always seems to do well in Vegas, so I don't mind.

[StillCJ]

Those bracket busters are a joke. The MWC has always refused to play in them. One, we don't want to be labeled as mid-major at anything. Two, the brackets they are trying to bust are for non-bcs schools. Basically, they try to use the tournament to deliver any at larges that would fall outside of the big six leagues to the big six leagues. They certainly aren't breaking the 8th place ACC teams bracket. Usually, they bust the Wac's at large chances instead.

Screw that tournament. There are much better ways to build your tourney resume then through that b.s. tournament.

[cjp27]

For me, the only way we make the change is if the MVC reverts back to the dog years of the ninties, when the conference RPI was routinely in the teens (1999-00 MVC RPI 18).

Problem is, if you wait until that happens, it is likely too late to change anyway.

[SubGod22]

If it's us and CU I'd be down. Add Tulsa in and its a no brainer.

[Shockerman]

Love the idea with a few exceptions. Any deal would have to include Tulsa, there is no debate about this. The only problem is baseball. Potential rivals would be Fresno and Air force would draw well. If we could somehow align with Rice and Tulane then things really start looking up. The perfect conference imo for is would be....

Conference West Basketball

Wichita
Tulsa
Creighton
Tulane
Rice
Southern Miss
Mo State
Utep

Air force
Unm
CSU
Wyo
USU
Fresno
UNLV
UNR

CONFERENCE WEST FOOTBALL

Fresno
Nevada
UNLV
Hawaii
SJSU
USU
Air force

Wyo
CSU
UNM
Utep
Rice
Tulane
USM

CONFERENCE WEST BASEBALL

Wichita
Creighton
MSU
Rice
Southern Miss
Nevada
UNLV
Fresno
Air force
Tulane
New Mexico


Mo State keeps its football in the mvfc, SJSU and Hawaii are football only. What is not to like? It really is the best of the rest conference in every sport.

[Steeleshocker]

Well, it is official, kind of. It looks like the MWC and C-USA will be merging into a 16 team conference. The interesting point is that they see the conference containing 18-24 members. If CU and WSU are invited, I hope we make the jump.

[shox1989]

Those bracket busters are a joke. The MWC has always refused to play in them. One, we don't want to be labeled as mid-major at anything. Two, the brackets they are trying to bust are for non-bcs schools. Basically, they try to use the tournament to deliver any at larges that would fall outside of the big six leagues to the big six leagues. They certainly aren't breaking the 8th place ACC teams bracket. Usually, they bust the Wac's at large chances instead.

Screw that tournament. There are much better ways to build your tourney resume then through that b.s. tournament.

Actually they keep busting the MVC's at large chances as well. The Valley has been a one bid league the last four years. We certainly couldn't have done any worse if we hadn't been in the BBs.

[MadDog]

If there is a 18-24 school MW - CUSA conference and we are not in it, then we really screwed up!

[another shocker]

Those bracket busters are a joke. The MWC has always refused to play in them. One, we don't want to be labeled as mid-major at anything. Two, the brackets they are trying to bust are for non-bcs schools. Basically, they try to use the tournament to deliver any at larges that would fall outside of the big six leagues to the big six leagues. They certainly aren't breaking the 8th place ACC teams bracket. Usually, they bust the Wac's at large chances instead.

Screw that tournament. There are much better ways to build your tourney resume then through that b.s. tournament.

Some people here seem to really like it (and then wonder why WSU gets no poll love). Why, I have no idea. But Elgin has contracted the MVC into that puke joke for another four years.. his worst move EVER.. so MWC is a no go. Thank you Doug, may we have another.

[RoyalShock]

I think some people like it only because in the past our coaches have said they liked it, mainly from a scheduling standpoint.

[skywalker30]

Wyoming? Oh, wait, I just looked it up -- they won in 1943 (!). You're not kidding about history, CJ.

Isn't Wyoming closer to being in the at-large field than any Valley team not including us and Creighton? This would obviously be an upgrade. If nothing else it would be a big upgrade in the eyes of the media. You can deny it all you want but media attention is huge for college sports these days.

[NWShocker11]

wouldn't we be able to buyout or whatever it we would need to do to leave the conference like the other schools have to do when they switch? Like pay the necessary exit fee out of the MVC and then other costs for breaking the BB contract. I think if we were given the chance, we would take it in a heartbeat especially with the conference teams that were discussed above. i think the costs for leaving would not be as great as the benefits for the move imho.