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  • Originally posted by ShockingButTrue View Post
    Does this victory mean we're better than SMU?
    There hasn't been much doubt for several weeks that we are better than SMU.

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    • Originally posted by SHOXAAC View Post

      As you said in your previous post...one game. He is not very good.
      This might have been his best game against a D1 opponent but it’s not the only game he’s been a positive contributor. He’s had decent games against ORU, OSU, Ole Miss.

      He’s nowhere near our best player and we don’t need him to be. We have two other centers (really one at the moment) who can step in when he isn’t playing well or is in foul trouble. It’s the beauty of the 3 (hopefully someday) headed monster that we’ve used since Gregg Marshall got here.

      Many have made up their mind about him and it would take something miraculous to change their opinion.

      He certainly frustrates me at times but he’s not as bad as that crowd wants to make him.

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      • Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post

        If memory serves, he may have had some baggage, too.
        Yes, he had some serious legal trouble his senior year. He played at Topeka Hayden (Catholic HS here in Topeka). I saw him play multiple times. I think he was a four star and had multiple power five offers before being indicted with distributing child pornography. The charges were reduced to misdemeanors and he then signed with Cincinnati after their coaching change.

        Correction: it wasn’t his senior year. He was 16 when it happened and it looks like he was down in Wichita when it this occurred.
        Last edited by WeWillShockU; January 11, 2021, 12:36 AM.

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        • “2 hours after scoring a career-high 23 points, Ricky Council IV is still here at Koch Arena shooting around and playing 1v1 with fellow freshman Jaden Seymour”. Posted on Taylor Eldridge’s Twitter account with a video.

          https://twitter.com/tayloreldridge/s...323348994?s=21

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            • I wouldn’t mind seeing Porter be more aggressive on offense. It feels like he’s still a long way from his ceiling but I love the way he impacts the game. I bet he always has a positive K/D ratio in Call of Duty.
            • As others have said before, if Clarence Jackson can figure out the mental side - focus on D, boxing out, shot selection - he can take the team to another level similar to Council. He can drive and score, drive and dish, you have to respect him at the three point line, and he’s a great off ball cutter.
            • Bilau is still a mixed bag but there’s a couple months left for him to improve this year. Hopefully he can continue to get healthy and get in more practice and game time.
            • It felt like Tyson forced it less tonight than he did against Houston which is good. He doesn’t have to shoot it every time to positively impact the offense. Similar to Steph Curry, his mere presence on the court should make things easier for his teammates.
            • Really dumb end to the game. I would have liked to see us finish with a 10+ point win but Cincy got the “buy game” hot shooting and wtf calls from referees. But it’s a process and always nice to get some coaching material and a W.

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            • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post

              This might have been his best game against a D1 opponent but it’s not the only game he’s been a positive contributor. He’s had decent games against ORU, OSU, Ole Miss.

              He’s nowhere near our best player and we don’t need him to be. We have two other centers (really one at the moment) who can step in when he isn’t playing well or is in foul trouble. It’s the beauty of the 3 (hopefully someday) headed monster that we’ve used since Gregg Marshall got here.

              Many have made up their mind about him and it would take something miraculous to change their opinion.

              He certainly frustrates me at times but he’s not as bad as that crowd wants to make him.
              I’m really impressed with his free throw improvement. He plays hard but I wish he would pass the ball back out occasionally.

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              • Originally posted by TheShocktocles View Post

                Me too. But he seems to have the problem SHJ had his junior year. Recently the lane is always congested when he goes to the cup. Thus he gets his shot blocked too much. He can get to the cup but has got to do a better job making the decision. I will take AG every day if he is going one on one. Not so much one on two or three. Go shocks.
                I have heard from those that saw him play before he started having injury problems - he was a different player. A talented and explosive point guard. I expect he is still trying to make those same type of moves, shots and plays, but his body is just holding him back.

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                • Originally posted by pogo View Post
                  I'm ready to come clean on the Houston game. It was my fault we got beat. Worn the same sweatshirt for every conference game except for the Houston game. Wore it again today with good results. Not gonna wash it either so I think we are good to win the conference this year.
                  With the social distancing, nobody will be the wiser - unless you start wearing it to the baseball games.

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                  • Originally posted by WeWillShockU View Post

                    Yes, he had some serious legal trouble his senior year. He played at Topeka Hayden (Catholic HS here in Topeka). I saw him play multiple times. I think he was a four star and had multiple power five offers before being indicted with distributing child pornography. The charges were reduced to misdemeanors and he then signed with Cincinnati after their coaching change.
                    Makes me happy he was never seriously considering WSU. That could have easily been mutual.
                    The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                    We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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                    • Originally posted by shoxlax View Post
                      Bingo on AG. I am hoping as he gets more used to his teammates strengths he will start becoming a facilitator.
                      ...and I believe he had some legit 4-Star bigs to get the ball to at UConn. Earlier in the season he made some nice passes in the lane to a totally unexpected big not ready for the pass. Lol. Hopefully that'll come to fruition here as the season goes on!

                      Go Shocks!!!
                      FINAL FOURS:
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                      NCAA Tournament:
                      1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021

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                      AP Poll History of Wichita St:
                      Number of Times Ranked: 157
                      Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
                      Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
                      Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)

                      Highest Recent AP Ranking:
                      #3 - Dec. 2017
                      #2 ~ March 2014

                      Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
                      #2 ~ March 2014
                      Finished 2013 Season #4

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                      • Originally posted by pogo View Post
                        I'm ready to come clean on the Houston game. It was my fault we got beat. Worn the same sweatshirt for every conference game except for the Houston game. Wore it again today with good results. Not gonna wash it either so I think we are good to win the conference this year.
                        So if you don't wash it that's not exactly coming clean.

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                        • Originally posted by Aargh View Post

                          Makes me happy he was never seriously considering WSU. That could have easily been mutual.
                          The accusation was that him and a couple of his friends shared phone pictures of a high school girl. I think she was 15 or 16 so it wasn’t like a little kid. Still wrong but I can understand how the charges were reduced. I’m pretty sure that he had offers from Iowa State and a couple of Big 10 schools prior to the indictment.

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                          • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post

                            Unacceptable? It’s one game, we won, and scored 80. I don’t care who scores the points and I’m glad we have a team that has different guys step up when someone has a down game because those nights happen.
                            I'm sort of with you but Cincinnati was a team asking to be boatraced. Even marginal shooting from that group and this could have been a 20 point win.
                            Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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                            • Score closer than the game, sorta like us vs Houston.

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                              • Is there a worse official than Zelton Steed? The guy big foots over other officials and made a horrible no call on Tyson’s break away at the end of the game and gave Cincinnati the ball.

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