2020-21 Annual "Transfer" Guess-a-thon

[Shock Top]

I have a feeling that Dex and Poor Bear both hit the portal next week.

What about Morris and God's Bear?

[LoneStar48]

What about Morris and God's Bear?

Could be. I hate to think we could lose 9 guys!

[1972Shocker]

What do you guys want? Just curious. Thanks!

Many have pointed out specific areas where they believe Coach Marshall could improve his craft and approach. Logic would dictate what we would like to see is for him to improve in those areas.

One thing that is clear is Coach Marshall is not leaving Wichita State until he is ready to leave regardless of what the run-of-the-mill fan wants or thinks. So basically whatever is expressed on Shockernet are simply opinions and perhaps food for thought that otherwise are of little consequence. Although they perhaps do provide some measure of the temperature of the average fan for whatever that is worth.

Now if fans close up their wallets and quit attending games then you probably draw some serious attention. If that happens then a message has been sent and will be heard. So far that is not happening to any significant degree as far as men's basketball goes. So until that happens I will quote Dusty Springfield, it's just a lot of wishin' and hopin'and thinkin' and prayin'; plannin' and dreamin' by a bunch of people who really love Shocker basketball and want it to be the best it can be.

[1972Shocker]

I'm quoting this because I don't think I've ever seen the word "strop" used on SN before. Good job, 1972!

I like to watch Forged in Fire.

[rjl]

29% career 3pt. At some point as SG you have to be a maker to ever be considered as an all time great.

Let me put it this way. If I were a coach (not at WSU) and could choose between ES and AR I'd take the latter. ES just isn't special (and neither is AR).

I talk about when he was good this season, and you come back with lifetime statistics. Not really a direct rebuttal.

This will be my last post on the subject as I've burned all the calories I've got to spend sticking up for this kid, but here goes.

Up until the UConn game this season (when he was playing good) his sophomore season statistics were around 36.3% from 3, 48.1% from 2, and he was averaging about 14 points a game. Not world-beating by any means, but historically pretty good for a sophomore at WSU. When he was "on," he was clearly our best offensive player on the floor, followed by JE. He was also a pretty damn good defender during this stretch, averaging about 1.9 steals per game.

Look, I don't like sticking up for Stevenson that much because I think his dad is trash and thought Erik himself was pretty whiney at times, but this revisionist BS that happens every time a player leaves or voices a complaint is garbage, too. If Stevenson could have figured out his issues and taken that good stretch and put it across the whole season, gotten rid of the bad, bad errors (he also averaged 1.4 turnovers during that same stretch), and made the gradual improvement that a junior and then a senior would normally make, he would have been a pretty great player.

I know it's a lot of "ifs," but it's not beyond the realm of possibility considering he had it pretty close the first 16 games of this season.

[another shocker]

I have a feeling that Dex and Poor Bear both hit the portal next week.

didn't dex leave the team at midseason because he was jealous of the freshman (tyson, grant).. or something.

[1972Shocker]

didn't dex leave the team at midseason because he was jealous of the freshman (tyson, grant).. or something.

or something. I think the general consensus was that he was having difficulty dealing with the 2nd anniversary of one of his closest friends who was shot and killed for no reason while they were both student at Believe Academy. Whether or not any of the drama with the team weighed on him is hard to say.

[BOBB]

What do you guys want? Just curious. Thanks!

I don't think this year warrants another auto renewal.

[rjl]

What do you guys want? Just curious. Thanks!

I'd like to not get clowned by Sampson, who, by the way, was also coaching a lot of Freshmen and Sophomores this year.

I'd like to not wonder what chemistry issues are facing our team for the 2nd time in 3 years, going through two entirely different groups of players. Think about that; there wasn't a single player on this team that was here in the '17-18 season, yet here we are with very similar issues.

I'd like to not be facing our second "rebuild" in 3 seasons.

I'd like to expect at least top-25 results from a guy making top-13 money.

Like others, I'm not calling for Marshall to go, but you simply cannot overlook the patterns that are developing. I think a healthy dose of criticism goes all around in these cases, players AND coach included.

[Eric]

One can’t help but look at common denominators.

[1972Shocker]

I don't think this year warrants another auto renewal.

At 23-8 the year overall was pretty solid. A bit messy and uncomfortable especially the 2nd half of the season. But the Shocks did manage to go 6-2 in their last 8 including a near miss at Cincy, an unbelievable comeback at SMU and a home finale beat down of Tulsa and seemingly had pulled their season from the brink to having a very good shot at an NCAA at-large bid.

Perhaps that decision should be delayed as long as possible to kind of see where all the dust settles and see if the roster sustains anymore significant hits.

Next year was already going to be a challenge with Jaime moving on. Whether or not Erik's departure is addition by subtraction is hard to say for sure. If the team had basically split into 2 factions that is not good. When Erik played well he played very well. When he played poorly he played very poorly. Not much in between. Losing Jamarius may hurt more. Whether or not Jadun Michael can step in to one of those holes as a freshman remains to be seen. How good will Josephat be.next year?

It was a challenging year but at 23-8 and a good shot at the NCAA Tournament I don't think it warrants tinkering with the auto renewal. Especially since the team did not get the opportunity to show what they could do in the post-season.

[Maizerunner08]

Now Dex has some cryptic heartbroken tweet. Hopefully about his teammates leaving and not him...

[shocksrbest]

UK players also are in the convo for a National Championship each season.

A lot easier to bite the bullet for a better chance at glory.

...and most seldom play for more than a year or two.

[wufan]

I’m pretty sure Dex is heartbroken that his friends are leaving.

[Eric]