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**JVShocker** · October 16, 2018, 09:59 AM

5 - AM, Udeze and JE
4 - MM, RB maybe Chandler..........with TA available MM probably starts at SF instead
3 - DD, CM
2 - ES, CM
1 - SMJ, Torres and JB...........all three will get their chance. We need a floor general.

Attended the public scrimmage.
1. I like Burton with his court vision, strength and size at point.
2. thru 5. I have no idea, but I like Moore's length from outside and hopefully Dennis' ability take over the role that Tekele Cotton had.

Not mentioning any names, but a couple of players were just out of control offensively and I would hope it was just nerves.

From what I saw at the exhibition, whoever can defend, will play.

**Shockm** · October 16, 2018, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by JVShocker(1) View Post

5 - AM, Udeze and JE
4 - MM, RB maybe Chandler..........with TA available MM probably starts at SF instead
3 - DD, CM
2 - ES, CM
1 - SMJ, Torres and JB...........all three will get their chance. We need a floor general.

Attended the public scrimmage.
1. I like Burton with his court vision, strength and size at point.
2. thru 5. I have no idea, but I like Moore's length from outside and hopefully Dennis' ability take over the role that Tekele Cotton had.

Not mentioning any names, but a couple of players were just out of control offensively and I would hope it was just nerves.

From what I saw at the exhibition, whoever can defend, will play.

Too early to say this for sure but I remember the Randy Smithson years when we couldn’t put the ball in the hole and we played hard on defense and had low scoring games(which we lost). Now we fouled too, but the point is you have people who can score. Teddy could help on that too.

**WstateU** · October 16, 2018, 11:41 AM

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**JVShocker** · October 16, 2018, 01:16 PM

No offense to Randy Smithson, but I cannot compare Smithson's style of coaching with Marshall's in any way. They're night and day. The level of talent is quite a bit different as well, even if much of it is in their first season of D1. I have ZERO expectations about the upcoming season, other than the fact that they will play hard, maybe with a bit of a chip on their shoulder having been picked 8th (seems a bit low based on Marshall's history), and it will probably be filled with some "oh my" moments (both good and bad).

**Shockm** · October 16, 2018, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by JVShocker(1) View Post

No offense to Randy Smithson, but I cannot compare Smithson's style of coaching with Marshall's in any way. They're night and day. The level of talent is quite a bit different as well, even if much of it is in their first season of D1. I have ZERO expectations about the upcoming season, other than the fact that they will play hard, maybe with a bit of a chip on their shoulder having been picked 8th (seems a bit low based on Marshall's history), and it will probably be filled with some "oh my" moments (both good and bad).

It would be crazy to compare Smithson's style of coaching to Gregg and no one has done that. If you read the statement, the comparison only was in regard to a lack of scoring power. Our young team may suffer from a lack of putting the ball in the hole from time to time. I even remember Gene Smithson's team (with Cliff Levingston, and Antoine Carr and possibly the greatest Shocker ever) sometimes have a long dry spell from scoring. That is where youth, bad decision making, and a lack of confidence happens. Gregg can teach but he only the players can go on the court.

**ShockerFever** · October 16, 2018, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by Shockm View Post

It would be crazy to compare Smithson's style of coaching to Gregg and no one has done that. If you read the statement, the comparison only was in regard to a lack of scoring power. Our young team may suffer from a lack of putting the ball in the hole from time to time. I even remember Gene Smithson's team (with Cliff Levingston, and Antoine Carr and possibly the greatest Shocker ever) sometimes have a long dry spell from scoring. That is where youth, bad decision making, and a lack of confidence happens. Gregg can teach but he only the players can go on the court.

Gregg gets credit for the wins. He also gets credit for the losses, as few as they may be.

**Dan** · October 16, 2018, 02:05 PM

The Randy days typically had about 3 total guys on the team that could legitimately score. The rest of the guys were just fillers and defensive muscle.

**RoyalShock** · October 16, 2018, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by JVShocker(1) View Post

5 - AM, Udeze and JE
4 - MM, RB maybe Chandler..........with TA available MM probably starts at SF instead
3 - DD, CM
2 - ES, CM
1 - SMJ, Torres and JB...........all three will get their chance. We need a floor general.

Attended the public scrimmage.
1. I like Burton with his court vision, strength and size at point.
2. thru 5. I have no idea, but I like Moore's length from outside and hopefully Dennis' ability take over the role that Tekele Cotton had.

Not mentioning any names, but a couple of players were just out of control offensively and I would hope it was just nerves.

From what I saw at the exhibition, whoever can defend, will play.

Wait, what? Could it be?

Is this the reincarnation of the original JVShocker?

I thought he was lost, but now is he found?

**AZ Shocker** · October 16, 2018, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post

Wait, what? Could it be?

Is this the reincarnation of the original JVShocker?

I thought he was lost, but now is he found?

Welcome back JV!!! Good to see ya again!

**im4wsu** · October 16, 2018, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by Shockm View Post

It would be crazy to compare Smithson's style of coaching to Gregg and no one has done that. If you read the statement, the comparison only was in regard to a lack of scoring power. Our young team may suffer from a lack of putting the ball in the hole from time to time. I even remember Gene Smithson's team (with Cliff Levingston, and Antoine Carr and possibly the greatest Shocker ever) sometimes have a long dry spell from scoring. That is where youth, bad decision making, and a lack of confidence happens. Gregg can teach but he only the players can go on the court.

I nowhere convinced this team cannot ans will not score. Not based on one 20 minute scrimmage where many of the players had not played before 1,000 fans before.

**Slykryck** · October 16, 2018, 07:24 PM

I haven’t gotten a chance to see the team in person so my opinion is based on clips I’ve seen and observations shared...

It seems we have both scorers and defenders, but no one who essentially does both well at this stage. I hope we’re not choosing between one or the other all year. I am optimistic. A big part of effective defense is effort. Our players have the physical tools. HCGM isn’t going to let them play if they’re not showing that effort.

**Shockm** · October 16, 2018, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by im4wsu View Post

I nowhere convinced this team cannot ans will not score. Not based on one 20 minute scrimmage where many of the players had not played before 1,000 fans before.

I think that’s pretty much what I said. I’m concerned because this is a young team (and I’ve seen very talented, young teams with this fault before) but a 20 minutes scrimmage may not tell us enough.

**JVShocker** · October 17, 2018, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post

Wait, what? Could it be?

Is this the reincarnation of the original JVShocker?

I thought he was lost, but now is he found?

Yep.:wsu_posters:

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