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Originally posted by Shocker_Power View PostNone of us are aware of the financials of other schools. Could they have scheduled a little stronger? Possibly, but that still wouldn't have paid the bills and wouldn't have effected the outcome in the long run. I refuse to believe that any school strives for failure or even mediocrity.
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The 2006 NCAA credits for 2 S16's and 4 teams in the tourney ran from 2007-2012. That's the same time frame when the Valley took a big step backwards and the bad financial situations at some of the Valley members became apparent.
WSU provided a lot of NCAA credits staring in 2013. Once the $$$ from WSU's F4 are gone, there will be some Valley schools struggling with the lower revenue in their athletic departments. Shortly after that the S16 money dries up.
While those aren't terribly significant amounts in the overall athletic budgets, they are cuts. Cuts to departments already struggling are problematic. The decreasing significance of the Valley will likely make it more difficult to raise funds from communities and alumni. In 5 or 6 years the Valley is likely to be scheduling a lot of away games for paychecks.The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.
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I am all for scheduling good teams across the board. Keep the RPI killers out of the schedule. But who would we replace on our schedule? There is really only 4 games, unless you add a MVC team as exhibition.
Florida Gulf Coast? They could win the MVC
South Dakota State? They are better than most MVC teams including Bradley
Arkansas State? They are definitely a candidate, but they still could be better than half of the MVC including Bradley.
Savannah State? They are low hanging fruit and I would hope WSU would get rid of teams like this. They are going to D2 anyway.
So lets just say we are going to replace Savannah State. Who in the MVC do you replace them with? My criteria would be that you have a good relationship with them and they actually not be a RPI risk.
That eliminate DU, BU, EU and ISUB. These are 200+ (maybe 300 RPI) perennial teams.
Valparaiso - no relationship
SIU - They would be a candidate just because of Barry, problem is their non-conference schedule is not very good and are high risk RPI team if things don't go right for them.
UNI - Another candidate, but this program does well in big games, but is not consistent for the long haul. They will likely give u a good game and maybe beat you, but will screw u in the end when they are middle of the pack MVC. But they are one of the team that could emerge to replace WSU as the "Boss of the MVC" - CANDIDATE
ISUR - With the crap they have pulled starting with Stutz, not only would I not take their calls, but I would block their calls.
LUC - Top 100 team and one I could see become dominant in the MVC, not sure though of relationship since they are so new to the MVC - CANDIDATE
SWMO - They are program that on paper looks good this year, but their fans seem to hate their coach so their could be some uncertainty of where this program is headed - CANDIDATE.
In summary I would rank my candidates as:
1. UNI
2. LUC
3. SWMO
4. SIU
ISUB, BU - these are a couple teams I could see turn it around.
EU, DU - They are going to be perennial RPI drags
Valpraso - nah, no history. Nobody cares.
ISUR - U do nothing to help these guys. If you want to crush them, let them actually get to the NCAA tournament to play you.
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Originally posted by Topshock View Post
When commenting on how tough our schedule is this year GM makes the comment "can we mix in a game with Bradley".A team that has been terrible for many years.
This really offends you people?? Unbelievable how easily you are offended! This is ridiculous!
Wichita State, our Coach, our players , and us fans have everything, and that is everything, going for us at the present time.
We are now in a much improved conference (that wants us!).
We very possibly have one of the very best BB teams we have ever had.
We are virtually sitting in the Top 5 or 10 in most preseason BB polls.
The future could not look better.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS IS ALL A RESULT OF OUR MOST HIGHLY RESPECTED BB COACH.
So maybe he was misquoted, taken out of context, or just made a mistake.like we all have done and do, especially me.
Perhaps WE FANS need to start acting more like we belong and we too can start by not bad mouthing lesser schools and our previous conference.
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Originally posted by 60Shock View Post
I'll tell you what is ridiculous!
Wichita State, our Coach, our players , and us fans have everything, and that is everything, going for us at the present time.
We are now in a much improved conference (that wants us!).
We very possibly have one of the very best BB teams we have ever had.
We are virtually sitting in the Top 5 or 10 in most preseason BB polls.
The future could not look better.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS IS ALL A RESULT OF OUR MOST HIGHLY RESPECTED BB COACH.
So maybe he was misquoted, taken out of context, or just made a mistake.like we all have done and do, especially me.
Perhaps WE FANS need to start acting more like we belong and we too can start by not bad mouthing lesser schools and our previous conference.
"You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."
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Originally posted by 60Shock View Post
I'll tell you what is ridiculous!
Wichita State, our Coach, our players , and us fans have everything, and that is everything, going for us at the present time.
We are now in a much improved conference (that wants us!).
We very possibly have one of the very best BB teams we have ever had.
We are virtually sitting in the Top 5 or 10 in most preseason BB polls.
The future could not look better.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS IS ALL A RESULT OF OUR MOST HIGHLY RESPECTED BB COACH.
So maybe he was misquoted, taken out of context, or just made a mistake.like we all have done and do, especially me.
Perhaps WE FANS need to start acting more like we belong and we too can start by not bad mouthing lesser schools and our previous conference.Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.
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I wouldn’t mind a game against a valley team, but most of the teams are RPI killers. That was a big reason for changing conferences. And I always liked Bradley and wish them well, but even their fans have to admit that the games have been severely one sided for a while now.Marge: The plant called and said that if you don't come in tomorrow, don't bother coming in Monday.
Homer: WOOHOO! Four day weekend.
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I don't like this just because Bradley is one of the few MVC teams where their fanbase deserves better than the team on the court. Also, they're one of the few teams that could, with the right hire, catch fire and have the fan support necessary to keep that coach.
Given the way they played in the conference tournament, screw Wardle and this current team. But I have sympathy for Bradley's state overall. Not enough sympathy to think a H/H with an RPI 300+ team is acceptable, but enough to hope they make the right hire and take off in the future.
Good luck to their fans in the future.Originally posted by BleacherReportFred VanVleet on Shockers' 3-Pt Shooting Confidence -- ' Honestly, I just tell these guys to let their nuts hang.'
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Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post
Agreed. Bradley screwed themselves a number of years back at the worst possible time. Now their stuck and we're gone. C'est la vie.
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