Which is better overall for the program?

[BioShock]

1) Going 1-&-done in the NCAAs

2) Making it to The Garden in the NIT?

Was debating this with someone after the game last night, curious what Shockerneters think.

[newshock1234]

the goal is to get the NCAAs, but making it to the Garden, is taking it and making the best out of the situation.

[pinstripers]

Dunno about finances, seniors, or coaches, but fans have to love this. Let's pretend there is a kid trying to decide between ISU-blue and their 18-point loss versus WSU's 3 (national tv) wins. Which school gets more mileage?

[1972Shocker]

In the long run there is little difference in going 1 & done in the NCAA and making to MSG in the NIT if each of those occurrences only happen once in a blue moon.

However, if you can consitently make an appearance in the Big Dance and occassionally make a Sweet 16 run (or better) than you have built a solid program. Kind of sounds like Gonzaga and perhaps Bulter, although I think the jury is still out on whether or not Butler can sustain is success like Gonzaga has.

[BenWSU]

Need to sit down and look at how teams did the following season after winning NIT

[shox1989]

Re: Which is better overall for the program?

1) Going 1-&-done in the NCAAs

2) Making it to The Garden in the NIT?

Was debating this with someone after the game last night, curious what Shockerneters think.

I actually think the run to NY in the NIT is better than a one and done 18 point blow out loss in the NCAA.

I would NOT have said that a few weeks ago. But 4 (or hopefully 5) games on National TV against good opponents has made me change my mind.

Our team and our fans have looked great on national TV. The games have been great to go to or watch on TV (Va Tech game). NYC is a great place to visit and MSG is as good as it gets as a historical basketball arena.

I still think winning even just one game in the NCAA would definitely have been better, but I watched the Indy State game and I honestly feel like our run in the NIT is better than what Indy State did (a 14 seed getting blown out by a 3 seed).

[RoyalShock]

Millions fill out NCAA brackets. How many fill out NIT brackets?

One and done in the NCAA is more national exposure. Getting to MSG gets you deeper exposure among six other partially-interested fanbases - the other three at MSG and the three you beat.

Now, that's from a college basketball fan perspective, and maybe recruiting.

From a team and player development viewpoint, MSG by far.

[jocoshock]

Re: Which is better overall for the program?

1) Going 1-&-done in the NCAAs

2) Making it to The Garden in the NIT?

Was debating this with someone after the game last night, curious what Shockerneters think.

I actually think the run to NY in the NIT is better than a one and done 18 point blow out loss in the NCAA.

I would NOT have said that a few weeks ago. But 4 (or hopefully 5) games on National TV against good opponents has made me change my mind.

Our team and our fans have looked great on national TV. The games have been great to go to or watch on TV (Va Tech game). NYC is a great place to visit and MSG is as good as it gets as a historical basketball arena.

I still think winning even just one game in the NCAA would definitely have been better, but I watched the Indy State game and I honestly feel like our run in the NIT is better than what Indy State did (a 14 seed getting blown out by a 3 seed).

Agree.
Win over B12 team
Win over ACC team
OT Win over CoC
Potential win over a PAC 10 team
Potential win over a B12 or SEC team for a trophy...

It might be even better than a first round win over a middling Big East team like Seton Hall, then a loss to a better BCS team or non-BCS team...

All of those opportunities to show recruits how Marshall plays 10 deep is priceless advertising...

Don't know about the $$ though...

[jocoshock]

Millions fill out NCAA brackets. How many fill out NIT brackets?

One and done in the NCAA is more national exposure. Getting to MSG gets you deeper exposure among six other partially-interested fanbases - the other three at MSG and the three you beat.

Now, that's from a college basketball fan perspective, and maybe recruiting.

From a team and player development viewpoint, MSG by far.

Georgia Tech fans are certainly taking note of Marshall's run in the NIT....

[wu_shizzle]

One and done in the NCAA is more national exposure. Getting to MSG gets you deeper exposure among six other partially-interested fanbases - the other three at MSG and the three you beat.

I doubt that Indiana State's trip will be remembered by hardly anyone other than Indiana State recruiters over the next few years.

Our showings against BCS bubble teams on National TV definitely makes an impression to recruits today and going forward.

Of course we all want to go to the dance, but I hope we don't discount all the good we are doing right now.

[shox1989]

Millions fill out NCAA brackets. How many fill out NIT brackets?

One and done in the NCAA is more national exposure. Getting to MSG gets you deeper exposure among six other partially-interested fanbases - the other three at MSG and the three you beat.

Now, that's from a college basketball fan perspective, and maybe recruiting.

From a team and player development viewpoint, MSG by far.

Royal- Your reasons are why I still think even a single win in the dance is better than a NIT run to NYC. But getting blown out as a 14 seed to a 3 seed I think offsets all of the positives. College Basketball fans are just going to assume you didn't really belong in the dance, you were only briefly there as an auto-bid.

How many of those fans filling out those ncaa brackets wrote down or even bothered looking at the name Indy State very long? They saw Syracuse and immediately wrote it in. No respect for Indy St at all.

If Indy St had actually beaten Syracuse, now that is a different story.

[notquiteBWing]

This is something I keep asking myself..
I like us winning. I like it alot.

NCAA tourny is awesome, way cooler and prestigious than the NIT.

If we went, I would have been psyched. But had we lost the first game? depressing..

I (selfishly) would rather us win 3 quality games, than lose one on the big stage.

The NCAA scenerio is probably better for the program though, but not for fan enjoyment.

[RoyalShock]

As a 14 or higher (or is it lower?) seed, I suppose. Had WSU won the MVC tourney I believe we would have been at least a 12 seed, since two more wins - one over a top-50 team - and one fewer loss would be a better resume than what we had.

In my mind, WSU making the NCAAs means a 12-seed or better. I prefer not to think about a MVC where if WSU were to get the auto bid results in anything less.

[AndShock]

I'd take a 16 seed over an NIT Championship any day. I can see the reasons for the NIT love, I'm just not as into it.

[ShockTalk]

Why are we comparing the "one and done" to the Trees? If the Shocks had done what would have been necessary to get to the Dance, they would have probably been a 10 or 11 seed as it would have taken a minimum of two more wins.