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**AndShock** · March 5, 2011, 09:20 PM

Marshall can't coach and our players aren't very good either. Maybe these freshman can show something and I'll have some hope for 4 years from now.

**ShockBand** · March 5, 2011, 09:29 PM

Right now I'd say we're a middle of the pack team next year, likely picked 4-6. Marshall certainly does some things that mystify this armchair coach, but the players have to make plays, and far too often that didn't happen this year.

This year's team did underperform to preseason expectations, but maybe this is really who they are. Not an awful team, but not a great one either. Just a good team. Good wins you some games, but rarely championships.

**vancedave56** · March 5, 2011, 09:31 PM

Marshall can coach.
Is too much depth a problem? Maybe not so much if the athletes were the calibur we thought they were. Our performance was that of a squad that was 10 deep with all being average players.

In order to be a top team - we need a league MVP and leader. Anyone, anyone?

**RoyalShock** · March 5, 2011, 09:35 PM

Next year's pre-season top 3:

Creighton
Indiana St.
Wichita St.

Something also seems familiar about this year, as though it's 2005 again. The senior class that got us into consecutive NITs departs and their replacements get us to the NCAA.

I really expect Carl Hall to bring a different element to this team we haven't seen in awhile. We'll need Stutz and Murry to get their games back, Kyles to gain some consistency and Williams to grow into a solid sub. Fortunately, I'm not a betting man.

**tropicalshox** · March 5, 2011, 09:35 PM

If Hall's health is OK he will be a great, and needed addition. I don't know if he could make 1st team all Valley next year but we might need that. I don't expect a lot of help from the freshmen.

It's to early to give a prediction really. The roster is far from set.

**ISASO** · March 5, 2011, 09:44 PM

It will iikely be Ragland's team next year. Smith needs to be a consistent 12 point guy and develop as more of an offensive threat going to the rack - a role I wished upon Murry and Kyles but have given up on.

For our own sanity, we really need to think of this as 2005, where the players hit their ceiling and that's all they could give. Unfortunately, it will take Hall 1/2 of the season to get rolling and by then it will be too late for a special season.

Mid-pack in the MVC and another home NIT loss. Year 7 might be Marshall's sweet year, like Turgeon's was.

**Metalkatz** · March 5, 2011, 09:45 PM

Yeah and I wonder who we unexpectedly loose this year. Seems to happen every year we cut a guy or two that we may not have expected, or he "cuts" us

**pinstripers** · March 5, 2011, 09:58 PM

We have 4 new guys coming in next year as of right this moment. I expect 2 or 3 more new faces. Impossible to do very well given that amount of turnover.

**1972Shocker** · March 5, 2011, 09:58 PM

I think Royal is pretty much on target.

There may be more parity in the MVC next year but I'm not sure it will be any better than this year. A lot of talent moving on.

Questions to be answered:

1. How will Garrett perform as the primary big man in the middle.
2. Will Carl Hall be as good as advertised.
3. Can Toure, DK and Demetric figure out how to put their physical talents to good use on the basketball court on a consistent basis without offsetting everything good they do with a brain cramp.
4. We have our point guard. 3G keeps saying how he can really stroke it in practice but that has not carried over to games on a consistent basis. Will he become more of a gamer with his shooting next year,.
5. Ben may be the most predictable product we have coming back.
6. Can E.O. develop into a 10-12 minute a game backup center.
7. How much production, if any, will we get out of Jake White, Evan Wessell and Tekele Cotton.
8. Will Jerome Hamilton be in the mix or will we pick-up a decent Juco to replace him.

**ShockerFever** · March 5, 2011, 10:44 PM

Who cares?

**KC Shox** · March 5, 2011, 10:45 PM