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  • #76
    Originally posted by wu_shizzle
    Originally posted by shox1989
    That 3000 seat St. Mary's gym looks smaller than my high school gym. And its not just the west coast schools, Valpo that thing holds about 5000 and Kent St is something like that too. Like I said, most of these BB venues just look small time.
    What's "small time" is judging a team by the gym the play in or the name on the jersey.
    + 1,000.

    Talk about being a hypocrite..
    Deuces Valley.
    ... No really, deuces.
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    • #77
      You guys have me rolling on the floor.

      "Thanks, I needed that!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1prd0...eature=related

      Talking about thick skulls...

      "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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      • #78
        Paul Suellentrop's opinion FWIW:

        Some fans and coaches will use this performance as a reason to criticize BracketBusters.

        Nonsense. The MVC needs games against good opponents – especially at home. Given those opportunities, Valley teams blew it.

        Read more: http://blogs.kansas.com/shockwaves/#ixzz1Ebi3vm6k

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        • #79
          I got a chance to listen to Cuonzo Martin's show tonite. I'm paraphrasing a little but here is his take on Bracket Busters:

          I would be for the BB if they included the middle/lower BCS teams. The way it is now the Mid's are eliminating each other to make room for more BCS teams in the NCAA's.

          That is about as well as it can be said. :good:

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          • #80
            Originally posted by moshock
            I got a chance to listen to Cuonzo Martin's show tonite. I'm paraphrasing a little but here is his take on Bracket Busters:

            I would be for the BB if they included the middle/lower BCS teams. The way it is now the Mid's are eliminating each other to make room for more BCS teams in the NCAA's.

            That is about as well as it can be said. :good:
            I like Cuonzo, and I think is time in the Valley is about up.

            But, I wonder if he would feel the same way if he didn't get taken out behind the woodshed by Valpo.
            "Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should accomplish with your ability."
            -John Wooden

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            • #81
              Does a loss against a top 100 team smell any worse because the game has "Bracket Buster" beside it? Does a win against a top 100 team smell any better? They are still top 100 games and can do us good. At the end of the year you've played some top 100 game and some non-top 100 games, pure and simple.

              Me, I'll take the assurance of two good games, one pre-conference and one during, rather than hoping we can replace them with equal competition. You can still try and beef up your schedule without giving away the bird in hand.
              Where oh where is our T. Boone Pickens.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by wu_shizzle
                Originally posted by moshock
                I got a chance to listen to Cuonzo Martin's show tonite. I'm paraphrasing a little but here is his take on Bracket Busters:

                I would be for the BB if they included the middle/lower BCS teams. The way it is now the Mid's are eliminating each other to make room for more BCS teams in the NCAA's.

                That is about as well as it can be said. :good:
                I like Cuonzo, and I think is time in the Valley is about up.

                But, I wonder if he would feel the same way if he didn't get taken out behind the woodshed by Valpo.
                He wasn't whining about getting beat. He said that Valpo beat them fair and square. He would just like to see some BCS play in it because some of them would be taken to the woodshed also.

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                • #83
                  The bottom line is we shouldn't be complaining about playing the games. Our teams should be figuring out how to win the games. Turn it to our advantage and everyone will be singing the praises of Doug Elgin and the Bracket Busters. If we can't figure out how to win Bracket Buster games, it ain't gonna matter anyhow.
                  Where oh where is our T. Boone Pickens.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by wusphlash
                    The bottom line is we shouldn't be complaining about playing the games. Our teams should be figuring out how to win the games. Turn it to our advantage and everyone will be singing the praises of Doug Elgin and the Bracket Busters. If we can't figure out how to win Bracket Buster games, it ain't gonna matter anyhow.
                    Up until this year, our teams have been winning in this event. Until this year the Valley has totally dominated this event. The Valley has gone undefeated in this event, the Valley has gone 9-1 in this event, it doesn't matter it is a bad event. And it hasn't helped the Valley.

                    This year the MAAC went 9-1 in the Bracket Busters, yet not a one of its teams is an at large team (nor should they be). There are 114 teams in this event (way too many) and most of them are very bad teams that we should not be playing. Most of them are teams that stand no chance for an at large and most of them couldn't get TV exposure any other way (most of them don't even get on TV being in this event).

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by shox1989
                      Originally posted by wusphlash
                      The bottom line is we shouldn't be complaining about playing the games. Our teams should be figuring out how to win the games. Turn it to our advantage and everyone will be singing the praises of Doug Elgin and the Bracket Busters. If we can't figure out how to win Bracket Buster games, it ain't gonna matter anyhow.
                      Up until this year, our teams have been winning in this event. Until this year the Valley has totally dominated this event. The Valley has gone undefeated in this event, the Valley has gone 9-1 in this event, it doesn't matter it is a bad event. And it hasn't helped the Valley.

                      This year the MAAC went 9-1 in the Bracket Busters, yet not a one of its teams is an at large team (nor should they be). There are 114 teams in this event (way too many) and most of them are very bad teams that we should not be playing. Most of them are teams that stand no chance for an at large and most of them couldn't get TV exposure any other way (most of them don't even get on TV being in this event).
                      Just for clarity's sake, the only real "BracketBuster" games are those televised on ESPN. Teams that make themselves eligible, this year 114, are vying for a spot in one of 11 televised "BracketBuster" games. The ESPN guru's match the best teams in the pool for those 11 spots. So, if you merit a TV game you're sure you are going to get a good RPI match-up. If you don't make the TV games, you're probably not going anywhere anyway.

                      Some are embarrassed because of our record. I understand. The problem is, get rid of BB and some of our Valley brethern are going to be playing those same teams anyway. You've gained nothing. At least with BB the Shocks get two high RPI games. Our bad performance should not be an indictment of the BB concept.

                      Was there a MAAC team on TV this year? So they went 9-1 against teams of similar caliber. They neither gained or lost anything. Just another game.
                      Where oh where is our T. Boone Pickens.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by shox1989
                        Originally posted by wusphlash
                        The bottom line is we shouldn't be complaining about playing the games. Our teams should be figuring out how to win the games. Turn it to our advantage and everyone will be singing the praises of Doug Elgin and the Bracket Busters. If we can't figure out how to win Bracket Buster games, it ain't gonna matter anyhow.
                        Up until this year, our teams have been winning in this event. Until this year the Valley has totally dominated this event. The Valley has gone undefeated in this event, the Valley has gone 9-1 in this event, it doesn't matter it is a bad event. And it hasn't helped the Valley.

                        This year the MAAC went 9-1 in the Bracket Busters, yet not a one of its teams is an at large team (nor should they be). There are 114 teams in this event (way too many) and most of them are very bad teams that we should not be playing. Most of them are teams that stand no chance for an at large and most of them couldn't get TV exposure any other way (most of them don't even get on TV being in this event).
                        Don't even get started.

                        The times the Valley were whooping up on BB teams were the times we were getting 2 and 4 bids into the dance.

                        The MAAC played craptastic teams. Do you not understand this concept? The crap teams play the crap teams. The good teams play the good teams. We got beat by a good team.

                        Your blame on BB is getting downright annoying. Please stop.
                        Deuces Valley.
                        ... No really, deuces.
                        ________________
                        "Enjoy the ride."

                        - a smart man

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