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  • #16
    Originally posted by Speed
    Frustration looms because 4 home losses were unavoidable.
    We do in fact have 4 home losses, although not sure how you figure they were unavoidable. In fact, I would argue that everyone of the losses were extremely avoidable.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by 1972Shocker
      Originally posted by Speed
      Frustration looms because 4 home losses were unavoidable.
      We do in fact have 4 home losses, although not sure how you figure they were unavoidable. In fact, I would argue that everyone of the losses were extremely avoidable.
      It clearly didn't happen here, but don't ever underestimate the evil of ESPN.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by KC Shox
        That settles that, this is officially a one bid conference.............again.
        You are right. The Bracketbusters just eliminated SWOMO.

        It's all about the Lou. Unfortunately the winner may get a 14 seed.
        This conference has fallen to its lowest point ever.

        Even in the early 90s this conference managed to do better than that.

        4 years in a row as a one bid conference, that does NOT bode well for the future of WSU basketball.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by tw805
          Originally posted by 1972Shocker
          Originally posted by Speed
          Frustration looms because 4 home losses were unavoidable.
          We do in fact have 4 home losses, although not sure how you figure they were unavoidable. In fact, I would argue that everyone of the losses were extremely avoidable.
          It clearly didn't happen here, but don't ever underestimate the evil of ESPN.
          "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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          • #20
            Originally posted by 1972Shocker
            Originally posted by Speed
            Frustration looms because 4 home losses were unavoidable.
            We do in fact have 4 home losses, although not sure how you figure they were unavoidable. In fact, I would argue that everyone of the losses were extremely avoidable.
            Ooops got caught up in my tirade. Sorry. Blew my shot at a pre-game speech.
            Phi Alpha

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            • #21
              Anyone wanting the Valley to get out of the BB is witnessing how it waited one year to long to so. It has now firmly placed itself as a conference of also-rans. The MVC has placed the Atl-10, MWC, and C-USA a clear step above.

              Also, don't look for the MWC to renew our conference challenge when that time comes.

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              • #22
                CU lost to Akron 76-67. The Valley is doing TERRIBLE.
                If we don't get a couple more wins, the Valley will drop behind the WAC in 13th place.

                They may have to rename this event: VALLEY BUSTERS

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ShockTalk
                  Anyone wanting the Valley to get out of the BB is witnessing how it waited one year to long to so. It has now firmly placed itself as a conference of also-rans. The MVC has placed the Atl-10, MWC, and C-USA a clear step above.

                  Also, don't look for the MWC to renew our conference challenge when that time comes.
                  I agree. When this event first started the Valley was so much better than the other conferences in this thing. The Valley went undefeated that first year (4-0) and totally dominated the little one bid conferences the first few years.

                  Now we have fallen to their level and the MVC will be totally embarrassed by the little one bid conferences this year.

                  We waited too long to get out of this travesty. Now we are one of them.

                  Four straight years as a one bid conference is going to make recruiting much harder and will make it harder for any Valley school to keep a good coach.

                  :-x

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                  • #24
                    Doug Elgin over the last 5 years has put the Valley in a quagmire. If you thought it was hard getting quality recruits before....well, it just got harder.

                    Oh, and barring some miricle recruiting, don't expect WSU to be getting out of the Valley any time soon either.

                    Note: The only MVC teams to win were Thursday play-in round teams.

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                    • #25
                      The BB elimination games have probably opened up a dance slot for UNL

                      UNL with only one road win, two bad loses (Davidson and #156 Texas Tech), a 63 rpi (in spite of playing in a conference that allows you to pad your rpi),
                      but they are 6-6 against the rpi top 100 (winning at home and losing on the road) and they beat Texas today (in Lincoln of course).

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ShockTalk
                        Anyone wanting the Valley to get out of the BB is witnessing how it waited one year to long to so. It has now firmly placed itself as a conference of also-rans. The MVC has placed the Atl-10, MWC, and C-USA a clear step above.

                        Also, don't look for the MWC to renew our conference challenge when that time comes.
                        I don't see how you can blame the decline of the MVC on Bracket Busters. The fact that we are doing so poorly in the event is a symptom of a weak conference but not necessarily the cause.

                        Even if we had bailed out the of the BB this year it would not change the fact that the conference is down and has been for several years now.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ShockTalk
                          Note: The only MVC teams to win were Thursday play-in round teams.
                          That I noticed. So the MVC goes 3-7 this year with no meaningful or signficant wins. Is that the worst the MVC has ever done in the BB?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by 1972Shocker
                            Originally posted by ShockTalk
                            Anyone wanting the Valley to get out of the BB is witnessing how it waited one year to long to so. It has now firmly placed itself as a conference of also-rans. The MVC has placed the Atl-10, MWC, and C-USA a clear step above.

                            Also, don't look for the MWC to renew our conference challenge when that time comes.
                            I don't see how you can blame the decline of the MVC on Bracket Busters. The fact that we are doing so poorly in the event is a symptom of a weak conference but not necessarily the cause.

                            Even if we had bailed out the of the BB this year it would not change the fact that the conference is down and has been for several years now.
                            I am not blaming the entire demise of the Valley on the BB. I just think it is just one of the contributing factors.

                            Associating yourself with nothing but other one bid conferences can not be a good thing for your image.

                            There is a reason Gonzaga dropped out of this event (after one time), Tulsa dropped out, Butler has dropped out and the upper level non-BCS conferences don't participate (MWC, A-10, C-USA).

                            What is that old saying, you are known by the company you keep.

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                            • #29
                              The decline of the MVC is on Elgin getting rid of the scheduling rules. The symptoms of that decline are being seen in the BB games.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by 1972Shocker
                                Originally posted by ShockTalk
                                Note: The only MVC teams to win were Thursday play-in round teams.
                                That I noticed. So the MVC goes 3-7 this year with no meaningful or signficant wins. Is that the worst the MVC has ever done in the BB?

                                Yes! We usually dominate this event. A losing record against a bunch of one bid conferences is not a good thing. :-x

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