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Originally posted by Shocker85 View PostThere is a really bad odor swirling around all of this - I hope we don't find a corpse in the closet at some later date.“Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor Jones
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“If the NCAA Infractions Appeals Committee will entertain my appeal, I will pursue it on behalf of my players to the best of my ability,” Stephenson said in a statement to The Eagle. “If my appeal is rejected, I want my former players to know I did everything I could do to protect the record of what they accomplished while at Wichita State University from the NCAA’s ridiculous and unwarranted record-book eraser. And if this penalty is never reversed, to my players: we all know what we did, and we will remain forever proud of it.” - Gene Stephenson
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Originally posted by shockfan89_ View PostOr his own place in history, but either way it is the right thing to do for the players!
Next question at the public open house for the innovation campus: Will you take a stance and support our engineering students when the imminent patent troll comes along and files a patent infringement lawsuit against them for working on projects that you have endorsed, or will you bail on them like you did the innocent baseballs players?Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!
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This is really kind of bizarre. No one is really disputing the facts in this case. I think all parties would stipulate that they accept the findings of the violations as previously reported.
Furthermore, the suspensions, the probation and the monetary fines have all been accepted as fair and reasonable. The University even accepts that the committee had the authority to assess these penalties and the penalty to vacate wins.
The only issue being appealed is whether or not the requirement to vacate wins was an arbitrary and excessively harsh penalty imposed by the NCAA in light of the violations involved, the self-reporting and the cooperation of WSU. In fact, I don't believe the NCAA concluded that any intentional wrong-doing occurred. Surely, there is a means of dealing with this in a reasonable and expeditious manner that is not particularly costly. What are the precedents for this kind of violation. Can't use Penn State because those wins were restored.
What the hell is going on here other than the NCAA being an over-bearing, unthinking, self-serving bureaucracy whose interest are in no way aligned with the student athletes they claim to support.
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I had not really followed the Penn State reinstatement that closely. That reinstatement was a result of a out-of-court settlement of a lawsuit brought by the Pennsylvania Senate Majority Leader and the Pennsylvania State Treasurer and not the result of an NCAA appeal.
A lawsuit against the NCAA by the Paterno family is still outstanding.
Last edited by 1972Shocker; February 18, 2015, 04:16 PM.
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Regarding Penn State's wins being reinstated, I seem to recall hearing about that on the radio one day, and that they were only successful in getting the wins back because they promised to donate some $20 million (that number may be off) to awareness programs, victim-rights charities and the such.
As for our situation, I also think the penalty seems harsh, but aren't there other situations where wins were vacated because it was found out later that one or more players should have been ineligible to play? Didn't the Derrick Rose situation play out like that? I know fraud was involved in that one so the verdict wasn't shocking or surprising.
I'm just curious if there are any previous NCAA rulings that ours can be compared to, where players did something that made them ineligible, without the fraud component.
An interesting tweet I saw today:
Ashley Stephenson @ashleyanne213
Pretty ridiculous how Wichita State is treating my uncle. Let's not forget who gave you a baseball program.. #GeneStephenson
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Originally posted by RoyalShock View PostRegarding Penn State's wins being reinstated, I seem to recall hearing about that on the radio one day, and that they were only successful in getting the wins back because they promised to donate some $20 million (that number may be off) to awareness programs, victim-rights charities and the such.
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