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  • #31
    Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown View Post
    The landscape is perfect for what Wichita State has to offer.... MONEY!

    Each Coach I listed makes less than half what we were paying Coach Stephenson. Most candidates will be looking at money, facilities and support, money, possibilities, and money.

    We can pay someone enough to come here. Can they win will be the question.
    LOL. We aren't paying the next baseball coach half of what we're paying Gene. Sorry, but we're not. Maybe 1/4 of what Gene is making, but half isn't going to happen. They'll be lucky to get what Kemnitz is getting paid to be the pitching coach.

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    • #32
      In my opinion, WSU was a top-25 power up to 2008.

      In addition to the two Super Regionals in a row, WSU did make Regional finals at Rice, Tennessee, OU and Arkansas. They were very close to winning the OU and Arkansas regionals.

      The MVC isn't great now, but I don't see why it couldn't rebound. It seems that Il State, Indiana State and Missouri State are all on the cusp of being tournament quality teams. And then there is Dallas Baptist.

      The WSU job is still a top-notch job. Go to a game at KSU and tell me that a reasonable person wouldn't consider WSU a step up. The mighty Big 12 got three teams in the tourney.

      If Gregg Marshall can take the basketball team to a Final Four, then . . . big things can still happen with WSU baseball.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
        You not going to go for BCS head coach, you are going to go for hungry young assistant coach who can come into a place with good fan support, good facilities and $$$$$ to increase his standard of living. He is going to come in and work his ass off to succeed.
        I know this. But a lot of people on here do not know that. Throwing out names like the KSU coach thinking WSU is an upgrade is just laughable.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by XManCometh View Post
          LOL. We aren't paying the next baseball coach half of what we're paying Gene. Sorry, but we're not. Maybe 1/4 of what Gene is making, but half isn't going to happen. They'll be lucky to get what Kemnitz is getting paid to be the pitching coach.
          Where do you get this stuff? You are badly misinformed or self-delusional.

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          • #35
            I listened to Bruce Heartle relay the info that other coaches do not see this staff on the recruiting trail as often. Coaching friends in KC area say same thing. JT became increasingly neglecting to give hitting instruction to players (practicing for the senior golf circuit). Players were going home to get instruction. Some turned to a former player for instruction, this did get JT's attention lately. I have been there since the beginning I feel this staff quit on me as a fan, they did not earn their salaries.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by ABC View Post
              Where do you get this stuff? You are badly misinformed or self-delusional.
              Cal State Fullerton pays their head coaches less than $150,000 a season. If you think we're going to fork out more cash for a coach than that school, I'm not the one that's self-delusional.

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              • #37
                Tons of coaches will be crawling over each other in an attempt to become the next coach of Wichita State Baseball. It is still a very, very desirable job with great history, great fans, great facilities, and an opportunity for great pay.

                I have hope.

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                • #38
                  I'm sure it will be underwhelming. Get ready to be Eric Sexton Disappointed.... Again.
                  Will Sexton reduce the pay to MSU levels?
                  What's the clown's vision for the baseball program? To be Valley competitive?

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                  • #39
                    The thing WSU has, is that they can take the guy with the desire and will to prove himself, and give him EVERYTHING he wants/needs to do what he wants.

                    I havent seen many others, but Im guessing WSU still has facilities that compare to most.
                    "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by XManCometh View Post
                      Cal State Fullerton pays their head coaches less than $150,000 a season. If you think we're going to fork out more cash for a coach than that school, I'm not the one that's self-delusional.
                      Why?

                      The school is already paying out 700,000+ in coaches salaries. So I don't see how they couldn't spend more than $150,000 for the right guy if they wish?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by XManCometh View Post
                        Cal State Fullerton pays their head coaches less than $150,000 a season. If you think we're going to fork out more cash for a coach than that school, I'm not the one that's self-delusional.
                        We are paying Gene and his assistants over $750,000 a year, you ignoramus.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by XManCometh View Post
                          Cal State Fullerton pays their head coaches less than $150,000 a season.
                          And? Exactly what are you basing your thoughts on?

                          I believe Marshall's starting salary was higher than Turgeon's.

                          I think WSU will pay what is needed to get the best coach they can. I do not believe that Sexton would make this move to save money. That is nuts.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Veritas View Post
                            What's the clown's vision for the baseball program? To be Valley competitive?
                            Evidently he had a higher vision than Gene. Because that was all gene has been in the last half decade "Valley Competitive".

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                            • #44
                              There were some WSU fans that thought Randy Smithson shouldn't be fired, so it is certainly understandable for that sentiment about Gene, as several have already stated.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
                                Bull S.... Convenient excuse for the Gene excuse makers.

                                All the attendance trends have been in a free fall including season tickets sales (which are not affected by weather)

                                WSU RPI - 103 (one of the worst in history)
                                WSU SOS - 125 (very poor home schedule)
                                18-19 Losing Non-Conference Record
                                19-14 home record (which is one of the worst in history)

                                The excuse makers are popular for saying "38 wins" - how can you fire him. It only took 66 tries to get 38 wins. That is 58% winning pct - 2nd WORST in the Gene Stephenson era. His worst came just a couple years ago.

                                0-7 vs Top 50
                                5-13 vs Top 50-100

                                Every possible metric you could look at is down ....except for the excuses.
                                I love a man, who speaks with facts or even factoids.
                                "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it is about the future."

                                --Niels Bohr







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