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How many more wins will it take for Gene to keep his job? If we go 2 & Q or don't win the regional he is done within the week. If we win 3 straight, something will have to be worked out, a coach in waiting type of thing for a specified time period. Win 5+ games, lifetime contract. Kind of an amazing story really. Any other coaches come to mind that were faced with a similar situation?
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I'm not sure it boils down so much to winning more games as it does to what kind of contract terms and perhaps staff changes will be required for Gene to continue. Will he and ADES be able to find common ground that both can live with?Comment
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ill be watching... but still need to get Hooper in here ASAP
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How far back do you have that data? Could you go back to, say, mid-90's and show the full chart (0 to 5000 attendance)?Originally posted by SB Shock View PostKung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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Problem u have with older data is it not apples and oranges. When schaus came on they changed the way they reported attendance. Prior they reported actual attendance, then in 1999 they reported tickets sold. It makes any comparison not very meaningful - unless you could get your hands on the "real" attendance.Originally posted by Kung Wu View PostComment
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Quick -- fire Gene now! He can't run the bases, he can't cut off infield hits, he can't pitch, he can't catch the damn ball, he can't get the third strike or the third out. What more does it take?
On the plus side, if the Valley tournament is any indication, we may have the field in Manhattan right where we want 'em.Comment
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You're a mo mo.Originally posted by WSUwatcher View PostDeuces Valley.
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We waited four long years to finally get back to the postseason and this is the crap we get???Comment
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And yet we still have delusional morons backing the current regime and blaming the players that he recruited and coached up here.Originally posted by shocks771 View PostDeuces Valley.
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So why are we paying this guy over half a million dollars if he has no responsibility of the product he puts on the field? This isn't little league where they just hand you players and you play with who you have. He recruited these guys and is supposed to coach them to be competitive. Right now he is doing neither.Originally posted by WSUwatcher View PostComment
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Yep, pretty frustrating. Don't get me wrong, I will always be thankful to Gene and the staff for everything they did, but the product on the field is no longer acceptable to me. Hopefully these guys can turn this around and prove me wrong again like they did last weekend but I seriously doubt it.Originally posted by ShockerFever View PostComment
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An excellent point, 771.Originally posted by shocks771 View Post
If you want to blame the coaches because the $3,000 players are stinking it up on a given day, 89, maybe you should start not with the $550K head guy but with the somewhat less highly paid Kemnitz, inasmuch as his charges have been the main culprits today. When McGreevy allowed the two 2-out runs to restore KSU's lead to seven back in the third, I noticed on the CBS Gametracker graphic that he had an opponent's BA of .280 this year (which is poor), but an opponent's BA with two out of .323 (which is downright toxic). Is that Gene's doing, too, for not yanking him once the other guys make their second out?
Mostly, you're just completely missing the point, as the Gene bashers do on a regular basis. Yes, this team isn't as good as what we've seen in Shocker colors over the years, and recruiting has played a part in that. I saw a recent post from someone, maybe even you -- I don't remember and don't plan to take the time to seek it out -- reporting a comment from an assistant at another school who said that he doesn't see the WSU staff out recruiting as much as they used to. If accurate, that's a legitimate indictment.
But the guys who are out there today are no less talented than they were last week, or during the regular season when although they lost twice to K-State they were by no means overmatched. If anything, they've been playing better than they did during the regular season, which is the reason many of us were hopeful about today. Even now, the game isn't over, although I'll be more than a little surprised if the Shocks pull this one out. The problem today is that they simply went out and stunk it up. And to the best of my knowledge none of the coaches has yet swung a bat, thrown a pitch, or tried to field a ball.
Ultimately, baseball more than any other sport is a game of execution, and when the guys don't execute -- and fail in really an egregious way -- I have no intention of misplacing the blame and excusing them for lack of talent. They're good enough to beat K-State. They're also good enough to beat whoever they play tomorrow, and they get to start fresh, so there's no reason to make more of it than is really there. It's only one loss (barring that miracle I referred to earlier), and you get two before you're finished. So if they return to the form we saw last week in Normal, I'll be offering kudos, and even if they just simply suffer your basic garden variety loss -- something that happens from time to time in baseball -- I won't complain. But the players are the ones whose task it is to play, and when they don't show up and do so on a given day, they don't get a free pass.Comment
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Your post makes little sense. You can logically blame isolated losses on players, but the deterioration of a program over the long term has to rest with the coaches. The buck always stops at the top.
Anything else is akin to blaming privates and corporals for losing a war instead of the generals and presidents.Comment
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