NBC News: "The FBI Has Arrested Several NCAA Assistant Basketball Coaches"

[Kung Wu]

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Omg that's hilarious!

[AndShock]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/espn-jay-williams-kevin-love-aau-coach-250-college-basketball-scandal-fbi-ncaa

Always thought Jay Williams was a bit of a *****.

[wusphlash]

Can't help but think that if the NCAA said every player gets paid $1, some schools would find a way to funnel them $2. If the NCAA says $2, they'll end up with $4. Of course you still have to take care of the AAC coaches.............big sigh.

[WheatShock]

gottlieb tweets that the best fit for louisville would be.. wait for it.. gregg marshall. yuck yuck tee hee

one of the most vocal shocker critics (shite conference, no talent, overrated talent) has been gottlieb. he's all about status quo p-5 (but oklahoma state is screwed.. see: fbi investigation).

gregg marshall and wichita state is the best fit. like, the best is yet to come.

This coming from the man who showed up for a game with his pants on backwards.

[Cdizzle]

I rarely disagree with you @Cdizzle. But you seem to be making the argument that if there was a free and unfettered market in college basketball or even one with some kind of salary cap negotiated by the "owners" and the players comparable to the NBA that teams would not be willing to pay these players more than the value of a scholarship. Perhaps that's true for a good portion of the NCAA D-1 teams but I don't see that being the case with most P-5 teams.

As far as your last point I think the size of the pie would remain about the same which would include whatever amount of money is circulating through the system under the table and off the official grid. However, I think the way the pie is sliced and diced could change signficantly. It is also possible that P-5 separates from the NCAA and the pie becomes more concentrated in their favor.

My take is more that this mythical free and unfettered market doesn't and wouldn't exist. It's a figment of Jay Bilas' imagination. And if it was, it's more likely to be akin to Independent League baseball, the CHL, or arena football. Those athletes aren't swimming in the money that ESPN is promising these basketball players they are worth. In fact, I'd wager they are making significantly less than the benefits college students receive (free room and board and tuition as a baseline).

[ShockerPrez]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/espn...andal-fbi-ncaa

Always thought Jay Williams was a bit of a *****.

Love's response was pretty solid when being wooed.

[ripemupshocks]

The possibility of "federal pound me in the a** prison" usually gets people talking.

Says Chuck Person could be facing 80 years in the pokey. That's not just, "federal pound him in the a** prison"; that's more like, federal break-it-off-in-his-a** prison. http://www.al.com/auburnbasketball/i...rt_river_index

Some speculation Person already informing on the enemy; http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-bas...51ulg0oqssnaru . With all the 4 and 5 star players Alabama has signed the last couple seasons, somebody is getting paid. (And yes, I'm still on my anti-Alabama crusade).

[shock]

[shockrah]

gottlieb tweets that the best fit for louisville would be.. wait for it.. gregg marshall. yuck yuck tee hee

one of the most vocal shocker critics (shite conference, no talent, overrated talent) has been gottlieb. he's all about status quo p-5 (but oklahoma state is screwed.. see: fbi investigation).

gregg marshall and wichita state is the best fit. like, the best is yet to come.

Goatlube to Louisville!
(quick, before his OK State job opens!!)

[wushock27]

Read this bunch of crap a VCU fan posted on the rivals board...

It's funny you have these two. VCU and WSU had the opportunity to setup a H&H after the Bracketbuster series of 2011-2012 and Shaka refused. Recruit Carl Hall committed verbally to VCU: https://www.vcuramnation.com/2010/09...man-carl-hall/

What happened after is "hearsay", but has legs. Hall switched to Wichita State at the last second, there was speculation it had to do with $$.

All we know for sure, is that Shaka refused to schedule a H&H that WSU was asking for. Shaka's demeanor on the sideline clearly showed he didn't like Marshall. WSU then took our fight song too. It's a nice "sort of" rivalry, that always has close games (2011 BB, 2012 NCAA tourney, 2012-2013 return BB game)

[Shocker Mama]

Some speculation Person already informing on the enemy; http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-bas...51ulg0oqssnaru . With all the 4 and 5 star players Alabama has signed the last couple seasons, somebody is getting paid. (And yes, I'm still on my anti-Alabama crusade).

https://sports.yahoo.com/alabama-caught-fbi-probe-001659682.html

[1972Shocker]

My take is more that this mythical free and unfettered market doesn't and wouldn't exist. It's a figment of Jay Bilas' imagination. And if it was, it's more likely to be akin to Independent League baseball, the CHL, or arena football. Those athletes aren't swimming in the money that ESPN is promising these basketball players they are worth. In fact, I'd wager they are making significantly less than the benefits college students receive (free room and board and tuition as a baseline).

As I mentioned in another post there would probably be some big winners and some big losers. Most of that will depend on what would happen with the TV Money. My guess is the rich would get richer and the poor would get poorer. However, that is a totally different issue apart from whether the current structure of college basketball provides a framework that you can say sets the fair market value of individual players. I think it is pretty clear that it does not. But it isn't designed to that nor supposed to that. That's not to say it isn't the best approach for college sports. Maybe it is. But sure doesn't strike me as a free enterprise system. But it has morphed into big business especially at the top rung.

The gap between the rich and the poor, even in the current system seems to be growing and there is a very real potential for that to get even worse depending on what the so-called Power Conferences do and how the media values and approaches things.

[rjl]

Alabama is next.

In the batting circle: Florida State.

[1972Shocker]

Says Chuck Person could be facing 80 years in the pokey. That's not just, "federal pound him in the a** prison"; that's more like, federal break-it-off-in-his-a** prison. http://www.al.com/auburnbasketball/i...rt_river_index

Some speculation Person already informing on the enemy; http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-bas...51ulg0oqssnaru . With all the 4 and 5 star players Alabama has signed the last couple seasons, somebody is getting paid. (And yes, I'm still on my anti-Alabama crusade).

I am not sure I understand the Alabama situation. They felt the need to announce the had "accepted" the resignation of a men's basketball administrator but had not found any rules violations????

[kcshocker11]

The widespread and ongoing federal investigation into bribery and fraud in college basketball, which led to an Adidas executive's arrest Tuesday, apparently is now spreading to Nike.
"Employees of Nike's EYBL grassroots division, along with documents, have been subpoenaed by FBI in furtherance ofinvestigation," attorney and Forbes contributor Darren Heitner tweeted Wednesday afternoon, citing unidentified sources.
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Sources: Employees of Nike's EYBL grassroots division, along with documents, have been subpoenaed by FBI in furtherance of investigation
1:40 PM - Sep 27,2017 · Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Feds subpoena Nike's elite youth basketball p
Nike's grassroots youth travel league program has been amust see for top Division I programs, which will put some coaches on edge.
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/nike-justice-department-fbi-college-basketball-coach-arrests/1k5n2el7howse10l0a3cb57wdw

Dont know if this has been posted