KU Trouble

[Dave Stalwart]

The dad seems like a really smart guy and he seems fairly principled. He also seems right. And they are going to have a tough time escaping the reality he is confronting them with.

[Aargh]

Rut roh.

The Comments to the story are mostly that she should have taken the hush money, and that things will only get worse for her if she doesn't. Evidently KU fans prefer coverups to character.

[WheatShock]

Hopefully KU won't be able to put the shades down on all this like usual. I'm not holding my breath though.

[wsushox1]

Rut roh.

Yikes.....wonder where the money was coming from.....

[WuShock16]

These distractions may have cost them a Midwest #1 seed. They still will be a number 1 seed, but may not sent to Tulsa now. This may allow us to slide in there. No way if we are an 8 seed that the NCAA would let us play KU in Tulsa. Personally, I think we will be a 6 or a 7 seed and I am okay with that.

I don't get it. If KU isn't the number-one seed in the Midwest AND not heading to Tulsa, then who is?

[wsushox1]

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[Shockerman]

We were once one of the most penalized programs in NCAA history. We have cleaned up our act but we have no stones to throw here fellas.

[jdshock]

We were once one of the most penalized programs in NCAA history. We have cleaned up our act but we have no stones to throw here fellas.

Seriously?

Even if we were ever as dirty as this year's KU team, that's like saying we aren't allowed to say Drake is bad at basketball because we were bad in the 90s.

Moreover, teams that get punished for their actions can definitely "throw stones" at the teams that do the same crap but nothing ever happens to them.

[Aargh]

We were once one of the most penalized programs in NCAA history. We have cleaned up our act but we have no stones to throw here fellas.

Here's how that works. At USC, a star football player's parents suddenly ended up with a $500,000 house near the college. What did the NCAA do? They declared the player ineligible - AFTER he declared for the NFL draft.

At WSU a recruit borrowed a jacket and forgot to return it before getting on the plane and a high school counted a Phys Ed class as part of a recruit's GPA to make a player eligible for a dsholarship. We got 2 years of no post-season play - when we had a #1 or #2 ranked team.

At North Carolina, an athlete can get several hours of A for making a copy of a paper that's been floating around in the athletic department for 15 years, and the NCAA does nothing.

With absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing, Roy Williams went to the NCAA and said he was certain WSU did something illegal in the recruitment of Maurice Evans. That's all the NCAA needed to send a couple guys down to Wichita and spend a couple of weeks looking for anything and everything they could hit WSU with. They found a couple of practices that had gone a few minutes too long.

The playing field is far from level. KU got hit with several violation WHILE THEY WERE ON PROBATION for lack of institutional controls. They break rules and instead of getting a violation, they get told not to do it again. When they do it again they get told "Hey, we really mean it, (wink, wink) stop doing that", but they don't get penalties.

[WSUwatcher]

Here's how that works. At USC, a star football player's parents suddenly ended up with a $500,000 house near the college. What did the NCAA do? They declared the player ineligible - AFTER he declared for the NFL draft.

At WSU a recruit borrowed a jacket and forgot to return it before getting on the plane and a high school counted a Phys Ed class as part of a recruit's GPA to make a player eligible for a dsholarship. We got 2 years of no post-season play - when we had a #1 or #2 ranked team.

At North Carolina, an athlete can get several hours of A for making a copy of a paper that's been floating around in the athletic department for 15 years, and the NCAA does nothing.

With absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing, Roy Williams went to the NCAA and said he was certain WSU did something illegal in the recruitment of Maurice Evans. That's all the NCAA needed to send a couple guys down to Wichita and spend a couple of weeks looking for anything and everything they could hit WSU with. They found a couple of practices that had gone a few minutes too long.

The playing field is far from level. KU got hit with several violation WHILE THEY WERE ON PROBATION for lack of institutional controls. They break rules and instead of getting a violation, they get told not to do it again. When they do it again they get told "Hey, we really mean it, (wink, wink) stop doing that", but they don't get penalties.

It does seem that some schools are easier to punish than others, doesn't it?

[WuDrWu]

Yikes.....wonder where the money was coming from.....

Yes, but I'd also wonder how in the hell Scott Boatman fits in. He's the principal counsel of Pronet Capital which at first glance appears shady as hell, and I'd bet a LOT of money that with just a touch of digging, I can tie Doug Compton to Pronet (probably Bill Self too) in about a day's work.

How does a 19 year old kid get representation from a "boutique and real estate private equity" firm? There's only one real answer.

To say nothing of how he's supposedly paying for it.

If the NCAA had any desire to enforce rules across the board, lack of institutional control runs rampant in Lawlessnessrence.

Random Compliance Person at any school: Hey Josh, I see you're in the paper again. Sure have a lot of free time on your hands for a student athlete.

Josh: Um, yeah. Ya know, managin' my time.

CO: That's great. So how did you get in touch with the private equities guy?

Josh: Talk to my mom.

CO: Yeah Josh you're an adult and a student athlete here. We have to talk to you.

Josh: Coach said to call Doug, he'll take care of it. Can I go? Me and Vick gotta "wash" his girlfriend's ride.

CO: Don't you have class now Josh?

Josh: Say what?

[shocka khan]

Yikes.....wonder where the money was coming from.....

I read the story, gotta' love that lawyer's name - Hatum Chahine - He must work for the firm Blindum, Cheatum and Robum.

And the money's been taken to the llavenderia, so you'll never know.

[wufan]

Here's how that works. At USC, a star football player's parents suddenly ended up with a $500,000 house near the college. What did the NCAA do? They declared the player ineligible - AFTER he declared for the NFL draft.

At WSU a recruit borrowed a jacket and forgot to return it before getting on the plane and a high school counted a Phys Ed class as part of a recruit's GPA to make a player eligible for a dsholarship. We got 2 years of no post-season play - when we had a #1 or #2 ranked team.

At North Carolina, an athlete can get several hours of A for making a copy of a paper that's been floating around in the athletic department for 15 years, and the NCAA does nothing.

With absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing, Roy Williams went to the NCAA and said he was certain WSU did something illegal in the recruitment of Maurice Evans. That's all the NCAA needed to send a couple guys down to Wichita and spend a couple of weeks looking for anything and everything they could hit WSU with. They found a couple of practices that had gone a few minutes too long.

The playing field is far from level. KU got hit with several violation WHILE THEY WERE ON PROBATION for lack of institutional controls. They break rules and instead of getting a violation, they get told not to do it again. When they do it again they get told "Hey, we really mean it, (wink, wink) stop doing that", but they don't get penalties.

I totally agree with the crux of the argument, but I believe the findings listed only account for those that occurred under the current basketball staff at the time. The previous athletic administration did some shady stuff.

If you can find the SI article prior to the investigation, there's some good stuff in there! None of it was found to be true, but crazy accusations.

[shoxlax]

Yes, but I'd also wonder how in the hell Scott Boatman fits in. He's the principal counsel of Pronet Capital which at first glance appears shady as hell, and I'd bet a LOT of money that with just a touch of digging, I can tie Doug Compton to Pronet (probably Bill Self too) in about a day's work.

How does a 19 year old kid get representation from a "boutique and real estate private equity" firm? There's only one real answer.

To say nothing of how he's supposedly paying for it.

If the NCAA had any desire to enforce rules across the board, lack of institutional control runs rampant in Lawlessnessrence.

Random Compliance Person at any school: Hey Josh, I see you're in the paper again. Sure have a lot of free time on your hands for a student athlete.

Josh: Um, yeah. Ya know, managin' my time.

CO: That's great. So how did you get in touch with the private equities guy?

Josh: Talk to my mom.

CO: Yeah Josh you're an adult and a student athlete here. We have to talk to you.

Josh: Coach said to call Doug, he'll take care of it. Can I go? Me and Vick gotta "wash" his girlfriend's ride.

CO: Don't you have class now Josh?

Josh: Say what?

Sad thing is there is no reason for he to go to class. It won't affect his eligibility for this semester only future ones which he will never have to worry about. Teams full of one and dones, enroll Spring semester then worry only about basketball. Cal should have about six championships by now and Self not too far behind.

[jcdshocker]

You could have a valid point. I was only trying to point out they may not be in Tulsa. There is no guarantee the #1 seed in the Midwest is placed in Tulsa.