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  • #61
    Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
    There may be only a handful of people directly implicated in the fraud but there are multitudes of academic and athletic department employees that, in effect, became enablers if for no other reason they decided to look the other way not to mention the 3,100 and counting students who participated. Do you think all of those 3,000+ students never mentioned to a soul what was going on. When I was in College we sure talked a lot about which were the toughest courses and professors and which were the less demanding professors. I have to believe that the number of academic and athletic administrators, academic counselors and students that new about this in some way shape or form was quite numerous indeed.
    The ax has and is falling on the academic side of the UNC scandal which in and of itself would seem to indicate an admission of guilt by the UNC administration.

    Mary Willingham, the UNC whistleblower, has a new book out on the scandal.

    Here is a quote in the book from a former UNC student, Adam Seipp, who took some of these AFAM classes at UNC in the late 1990's, and who is now a history professor at Texas A&M, regarding about how the student body knew what was going on and looked the other way:

    “ ‘(I)t was pretty clear they weren’t doing the work. We all accepted that. For some reason, we all just accepted that.’ Seipp attributes the passive compliance of the other students to the thrill most of them felt at being so close to athletic celebrity. ‘Being part of the Carolina undergraduate experience is, well, basketball. We were all a little bit starstruck. … They would come in with these bags of food that they’d been given in Dining Services, and you know, they were nice guys. So they would hand everything out. At the start of class (one of them) would come by and hand you a bag of Dorito’s, and … that was just part of what we did in those classes.’"

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    • #62
      NCAA: Educational quality not our job


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      But the NCAA is taking a very different position in response to a lawsuit filed by former University of North Carolina athletes. The lawsuit claimed the students didn't get an education because they were caught up in the largest known academic fraud scandal in NCAA history.

      In its response, the NCAA says it has no legal responsibility "to ensure the academic integrity of the courses offered to student-athletes at its member institutions."
      Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!

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      • #63
        That will work until.....

        Originally posted by jocoshock View Post
        NCAA: Educational quality not our job


        Live and on demand Burlington and Plattsburgh newscasts and weather from MyNBC 5.


        But the NCAA is taking a very different position in response to a lawsuit filed by former University of North Carolina athletes. The lawsuit claimed the students didn't get an education because they were caught up in the largest known academic fraud scandal in NCAA history.

        In its response, the NCAA says it has no legal responsibility "to ensure the academic integrity of the courses offered to student-athletes at its member institutions."
        The problem with having your cake and eating it too, like the NCAA is doing now, is it works until someone pulls out the BS detector.

        For years, life insurers took all their annuitants and ran them against the SSN death files. They did this to kick dead people off of annuity rolls. They never checked paid-up or lapsed term and whole life policies where the insured had lost touch with the company against the same file to see if they had died, as it would create a liability for the company.

        When the economy turned down in 2008 or so, a company approached Florida offering to help them collect money for the state. Their plan was simple enough, run this same files used to disqualify annuitants against the life insurance files of lapsed and paid up policies. If the policyholder was dead and a survivor couldn't be found, the state of Florida got a check to its unclaimed property fund, and the business got a commission.

        Of course the insurance companies fought, but ultimately lost.

        The NCAA will, too.

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        • #64
          How exactly would this work at UNC, for example?

          The University of Missouri has started using an app in order to track students’ locations to measure attendance in classes.
          Kung Wu say, man making mistake in elevator wrong on many levels.

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          • #65
            Not a problem KungWU, UNC athletes attend online only courses.
            “Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor Jones

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