Academic fraud at UNC

[The Mad Hatter]

Because that would be academic fraud. BahahaahaHAHAHAHhahah. But seriously, I think UNC's computer science department is working on that technology.

They have a head start of the research since UNC professors aren't distracted by little things like teaching classes that actually meet.

[WSUwatcher]

And for a coach to say he was unaware for that many years is either a lie or lack of control of one's program by turning a deaf ear, just not being on top of your program, or hiring the wrong people around you all of which make you responsible.

Roy E. Newman.

[Dave Stalwart]

It's hilarious and ironic to me that stuff like this is happening in the same time frame as the idea of not only providing scholarships, but paying players, too.

It really exposes the true situation completely. This is professional sports... At some universities, the education thing is such a joke.

I feel like a late night talk show guy should just sum it up for everyone and roast it.

[jocoshock]

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/09/report-unc-took-26-bogus-classes-during-2005-spring-semester-national-title-run/

Report: UNC took 26 bogus classes during 2005 spring semester, national title run

[WuDrWu]

I'm beginning to smell some scholarship reductions and postseason bans in the near future......


For some other program not named UNC.

[Mr. Pickle]

I'm beginning to smell some scholarship reductions and postseason bans in the near future......


For some other program not named UNC.

UNC Greensboro should have known better.

[Aargh]

Class action lawsuit has been filed by a former FB player because he was not given the education he contracted for. Claims he was told which majors he could take and his classes were scheduled before he even showed up.

[1972Shocker]

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspor...nal-title-run/

Report: UNC took 26 bogus classes during 2005 spring semester, national title run

Openening line of article:

The biggest question surrounding the so-called “paper class” scandal in the North Carolina athletic department is whether or not it will have an effect on the 2005 or 2009 national titles that the Tar Heels won.

A little tough to take this guy too seriously if he thinks that this is the biggest issue surrounding this academic fraud. If the only thing UNC had to do to make this go away was to vacate those two national championships they would do it in a heartbeat.

[jocoshock]

Class action lawsuit has been filed by a former FB player because he was not given the education he contracted for. Claims he was told which majors he could take and his classes were scheduled before he even showed up.

Awesome..

[Aargh]

Found the link to the lawsuit

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11840940/ex-north-carolina-tar-heels-football-player-files-lawsuit-citing-university-sham-classes

[WstateU]

East Carolina's shaking in their boots.

[WSUwatcher]

East Carolina's shaking in their boots.

Yes, and Western and Coastal Carolina, too. Spurrier's just glad that South Carolina is in a different state.

[jocoshock]

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/11/report-north-carolina-lands-their-first-commitment-in-the-2015-class/

Sounds like recruiting may be taking a hit..

[1972Shocker]

UNC will probably escape scot-free. UNC has announced it has hired the famous law firm of Dewey, Cheatham and Howe to represent them in dealing with their academic scandals.

[Rlh04d]

There's some interesting things that SHOULD be relevant to this UNC case based on what I know happened at FSU a few years ago. Which barely even TOUCHES what UNC has done here: essentially, one "Music Appreciation" course run over two years and a few other improper benefits from the same people. FSU self-reported the violations, and ended up being punished with four years probation, scholarship reductions for three seasons, and the following list of vacated accomplishments/wins:

FROM THE 2006-2007 BASEBALL SEASON:4 victories total consisting of:
-3 Regular Season
-1 NCAA Post Season
FROM THE 2006-2007 MEN’S BASKETBALL SEASON:
22 victories total consisting of:
-19 Regular Season
-1 ACC Tournament
-2 NIT Post Season

FROM THE 2006-2007 WOMEN’S BASKETBALL SEASON:
16 victories consisting of:
-13 Regular Season
-1 ACC Tournament
-2 NCAA Post Season
-AND FROM THE 2007-2008 WOMEN’S BASKETBALL SEASON:
-6 Regular Season victories

FROM MEN’S CROSS COUNTRY:
-2006 ACC Championship – 2nd Place to 3rd Place
-2006 NCAA Regional – 1st Place to 2nd Place
-2006 NCAA Championship – Maintain 30th Place
-2007 ACC Championship – 3rd Place to 6th Place
-2007 NCAA Regional – 2nd Place to 4th Place
-2007 NCAA Championship – 20th Place to 25th Place

FROM WOMEN’S CROSS COUNTRY:
-2006 No Adjustments
-2007 ACC Championship – Maintain Championship
-2007 NCAA Regional – Maintain Championship
-2007 NCAA Championship – 3rd to 4th Place
FROM THE 2006-2007 FOOTBALL SEASON:
5 victories consisting of:
-4 Regular Season
-1 Emerald Bowl Championship
-AND FROM THE 2007-2008 FOOTBALL SEASON:
-7 Regular Season victories
FROM MEN’S GOLF:
-No 2007 Regular Season Tournaments Won – No Wins Vacated
-2007 ACC Championship – 4th place to 6th place
-2007 NCAA Regional – 5th place to 8th place
-2007 NCAA Championship – 13th place to 15th Place

FROM THE 2006-2007 WOMEN’S SOFTBALL SEASON:
32 victories consisting of :
-30 Regular Season
-2 ACC Tournament

FROM MEN’S SWIMMING AND DIVING:
-2007 ACC Championship – Maintain 1st Place
-2007 NCAA Championship – Maintain 17th Place

FROM WOMEN’S SWIMMING AND DIVING:
-2007 ACC Championship – Maintain 2nd Place
-2007 NCAA Championship – 17th place to 26th place

FROM MEN’S INDOOR TRACK AND FIELD:
-2007 ACC Championship – Maintain Championship
-2007 NCAA Championship – 2nd Place to 4th Place

FROM WOMEN’S INDOOR TRACK AND FIELD:
-2007 ACC Championship – 4th Place to 7th Place
-2007 NCAA Championship – Maintain 30th Place

FROM MEN’S OUTDOOR TRACK AND FIELD:
-2007 ACC Championship – Maintain Championship
-2007 NCAA Regional – Maintain 1st Place
-2007 NCAA Championship – 1ST place to 2nd Place

FROM WOMEN’S OUTDOOR TRACK AND FIELD:
-2007 ACC Championship – Maintain 3rd Place
-2007 NCAA Regional – 5th place to 6th place
-2007 NCAA Championship – Maintain 14th Place

There were a number of interesting comments made at the time, including:

Thomas (Dennis Thomas, the vice chair of the NCAA Committee on Infractions) said on Friday that the instant a player cheated in class -- regardless of whether school officials knew about it -- he became ineligible, and if that athlete played in a game, it must be vacated. That could cost FSU games from 2006, when the academic fraud began. "They are ineligible at the time of that violation until they are reinstated," Thomas said. "If they participated while ineligible, obviously the games they participated in will have to be vacated. The trigger is if those 61 individuals obviously as identified by the institution committed academic fraud. At that point, they rendered themselves ineligible."

So if that was the punishment given to FSU for essentially one class and one tutor that FSU's President self-reported to the NCAA, the same standard would have to be held against UNC for 18 consecutive years of cheating, right? And far more considering the lack of institutional control that would have to go into this information taking so long to come out or be dealt with and still never self-reporting. And there should be punishments against coaches that obviously knew about this information but didn't report it (including Roy Williams, who obviously knew about it and began pushing his players away from it, but didn't report it).

FSU's case involved 61 individuals. UNC's has included THOUSANDS.

Per NCAA precedent, UNC should be vacating every athletic contest a participant competed in. That would likely include 21 of UNC's 40 NCAA national championships (three national championships in men's basketball, two soccer national championships, five women's field hockey national championships, 11 women's soccer national championships), 18 NCAA tournament appearances in men's basketball and 9 ACC championships, 225 of Williams' wins, 105 of Smith's wins, etc.

And it won't surprise me one bit if they get away with a slap on the wrist.

They SHOULD be stripping them of all of that and seriously considering stripping accreditation for certain programs, if not the entire school itself.