Insanity on college campuses

[BOBB]

Bullshit. Name a moderate Dem. Pelosi? Schumer? Waters? Bernie? They don't exist anymore

I see you failed to engage in the exercise.

[BOBB]

No... it makes one a libertarian.

Strange that you even had to sound that out for clarification.

To expand, nor does a general guidance by Judeo Christian values. But, in general limiting the scope of Federal government and having power residing in the states is a conservative value, no?

[jdshock]

If conservatives have to own neo-nazis, then liberals have to own crap like this.

Has anyone on this board ever "owned" the neo-nazis as a part of the big tent? Until someone on here says "yeah, they're just a part of the movement and they have their place," you don't get to say the left has to accept the folks who make us look bad.

I mean, if each side has to own the various extremists associated with our movements, I guess I'd rather be associated with those on the left than literal nazis.

[ShockerPhi]

Why are we doing this crap again?! Lumping each other into broad, ridiculous groups. All liberals aren't antifa, all conservatives aren't white-supremacists. F*cking stop it.

[pinstripers]

Why are we doing this crap again?! Lumping each other into broad, ridiculous groups. All liberals aren't antifa, all conservatives aren't white-supremacists. F*cking stop it.

find me a single quote where a prominent Dem disavowed the antifa.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

The left, the far left, the left fringe, antifa; they are in exactly the same place. Exactly.

This is a perfect example of the single biggest disease in politics today. Zero nuance, zero understanding, just mass stereotyping of all "opponents" as Satan.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

If conservatives have to own neo-nazis, then liberals have to own crap like this.

I'd prefer neither.

[ShockerPhi]

find me a single quote where a prominent Dem disavowed the antifa.

A super quick google search found that even Bernie Sanders, who we consider to be far left, saying he's not part of ANTIFA efforts.

Sanders, for his part, has disavowed violence and is not connected with Antifa efforts. A self-described democratic socialist, Sanders has come out against "hard-left" violence, saying of protests over Coulter's UC Berkeley appearance, "I don't like this."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-left/index.html

And for the record, Nazis are still much worse than Antifa. But once again, CONSERVATIVES ARE NOT NAZIS AND LIBERALS ARE NOT ANTIFA.

[SHOCKvalue]

Why are we doing this crap again?! Lumping each other into broad, ridiculous groups. All liberals aren't antifa, all conservatives aren't white-supremacists. F*cking stop it.

What are you talking about with such emotion? I didn't label anyone anything. I didn't insinuated it either.

Good grief... I'll take reading comprehension for $500, Alex.

[SHOCKvalue]

A super quick google search found that even Bernie Sanders, who we consider to be far left, saying he's not part of ANTIFA efforts.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-left/index.html

And for the record, Nazis are still much worse than Antifa. But once again, CONSERVATIVES ARE NOT NAZIS AND LIBERALS ARE NOT ANTIFA.

The extreme left (communism), and the extreme right (fascism) are equally abhorrent, historically. Millions upon millions of people dead on either side.

That said, modern US neo-nazis are fluffy puppy dogs compared to their Germanic namesake, and ANTIFA are just an incompetent collection of marginally-employable boobs who Mao Zedong would probably "cleanse" himself.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

What are you talking about with such emotion? I didn't label anyone anything. I didn't insinuated it either.

Good grief... I'll take reading comprehension for $500, Alex.

Speaking of reading comprehension...

He didn't quote you. Why are you taking offense? Other posters HAVE done what @ShockerPhi: was talking about. Maybe he was speaking about them?

[SHOCKvalue]

To expand, nor does a general guidance by Judeo Christian values. But, in general limiting the scope of Federal government and having power residing in the states is a conservative value, no?

That's classic conservatism. Just like classic liberalism has almost nothing in common with modern liberalism, the same can be said of the other side.

[SHOCKvalue]

Speaking of reading comprehension...

He didn't quote you. Why are you taking offense? Other posters HAVE done what @ShockerPhi: was talking about. Maybe he was speaking about them?

Who dat?

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Who dat?

Well...

The left, the far left, the left fringe, antifa; they are in exactly the same place. Exactly.

Why are we doing this crap again?! Lumping each other into broad, ridiculous groups. All liberals aren't antifa, all conservatives aren't white-supremacists. F*cking stop it.

[ShockerPhi]

What are you talking about with such emotion? I didn't label anyone anything. I didn't insinuated it either.

Good grief... I'll take reading comprehension for $500, Alex.

Perhaps I should have just quoted pinstripers since you took such offense to that. I'm aware you only said it because that's been the national narrative, not necessarily your view. And that's why I spoke with such "emotion", because yes it has been the narrative and has been brought up in these political threads multiple times and it's awful.