Charlottesville riots

[ShockerPrez]

The irony is that these Nazi F**** and these Antifa f**** have more in common with each other than the common American. And if either of these groups are marching, one would do themselves a favor by just freaking ignore their asses. And stay as far away from them as possible because they are crazy!

You are never going to root it out. They do this **** for attention, and the biggest diss to them would be to shoo them away figuratively and tell them too screw off.

However, I am wholeheartedly for the FBI keeping tabs on them as though they are ISIS.

[ShockerPrez]

And the biggest casualty of this bullshit was basically a bystander caught in the wash of insanity.

Stay away. Just stay away. Please.

[shockfan89_]

I believe the mayors ordering their police forces to stand down are doing so in order to ensure the survival of their police forces. I suspect there were people on both sides of this issue who would have no problem taking out a police officer.

One group, the despicable ones nobody wants to defend, had a right to be there and peacefully protest (permitted by the city). The other group, the one that is PC to support, did not have a right to be there and their presence caused this issue. The police had a duty to protect the first group no matter how wrong they are. The police should have removed the second group that DID NOT have a right to be there (even if they needed to remove them by force).

Political correctness is actually the cause of this issue. The mayor likely issued the stand down order to police because he didn't want to be lumped in on the side of the protesters who had the legal right to be there. Unfortunately, the news media is ensuring this will happen more in the future, and likely become more violent, as they attack Trump's response which was 100% accurate (although very poor optics).

The bottom line, regardless of who you support or disagree with, the people there to protest the statue removal had the legal right to be there. Sorry, but that is just a fact.

[jdshock]

One group, the despicable ones nobody wants to defend, had a right to be there (permitted by the city) and peacefully protest. The other group, the one that is PC to support, did not have a right to be there and their presence caused this issue. The police had a duty to protect the first group no matter how wrong they are. The police should have removed the second group that DID NOT have a right to be there.

Politically correctness is actually the cause of this issue. The mayor likely issued the stand down order to police because he didn't want to be lumped in on the side of the protesters who had the legal right to be there. Unfortunately, the news media is ensuring this will happen more in the future, and likely become more violent, as they attack Trump's response.

The bottom line, regardless of who you support or disagree with, the people their to protest the statue removal had the legal right to be there. Sorry, but that is just the truth.

The counterprotesters also had permits to protest: http://www.nbc29.com/story/36099395/...nite-the-right

The homicide looks as if it occurred at a location where neither group had a permit, at least according to the map on this CNN page: http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/us/cha...ash/index.html

As one final interesting note, the city originally didn't want the Unite the Right rally in the specific park they ended up getting because it was going to be too small. A judge ultimately ruled that they were allowed to be in that park: http://www.nbc29.com/story/36115819/...ncipation-park But, in hindsight, it certainly looks like the events spilled out past the park.

[shockfan89_]

jdshock - I didn't realize that!!! Whomever issued both permits is then 100% at fault. The reason for issuing both sides permits is still likely political correctness. The non-desirables had their permit first and the city didn't want to deny the counter protests.

[Play Angry]

I do not believe there was a permit for Friday night's torch-bearing festivities, contrary to the narrative.

[Walker]

I believe the mayors ordering their police forces to stand down are doing so in order to ensure the survival of their police forces. I suspect there were people on both sides of this issue who would have no problem taking out a police officer.

There's no doubt that is a concern and I agree that there are certainly people who won't think twice about taking out officers, I just don't see how standing down and allowing the situation to morph would make it any safer for the police. You would think breaking up clashes immediately would make for a more manageable situation.

[ShoxMTXE]

The irony is that these Nazi F**** and these Antifa f**** have more in common with each other than the common American. And if either of these groups are marching, one would do themselves a favor by just freaking ignore their asses. And stay as far away from them as possible because they are crazy!

I absolutely despise the events and actions that happened at Charlottesville. A lot of people where in the wrong and it’s a tragedy. Say what you want about the Alt-Right, Alt-Left, Nazi's, KKK’s, socialists, and the “Political-Correct” police; they’re better than careless Nihilists. I mean with Nihilists! Pardon my French but F%*# me. Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it's an ethos.

[jdshock]

I absolutely despise the events and actions that happened at Charlottesville. A lot of people where in the wrong and it’s a tragedy. Say what you want about the Alt-Right, Alt-Left, Nazi's, KKK’s, socialists, and the “Political-Correct” police; they’re better than careless Nihilists. I mean with Nihilists! Pardon my French but F%*# me. Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it's an ethos.

You're out of your element.

[Play Angry]

You're out of your element.

So disappointed you beat me to this.

[ShockTalk]

@jdshock:, were there permits issued for the march and, if so, specifics about where they could march?

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

So just to be clear, there were no people interested, as I am, in being heard that the removal of that statue is worthy of a peaceful protest, having NOTHING to do with so called white supremacy, pro Nazi or any other clearly defined hate group? That is what you are saying, correct?

I don't even understand your point.

You claimed ALL BLM hate cops.
I said you are being dumb to lump everyone together like that.
Your response is to claim I'm the one lumping people together?

What the crap?

[WuDrWu]

I don't even understand your point.

You claimed ALL BLM hate cops.
I said you are being dumb to lump everyone together like that.
Your response is to claim I'm the one lumping people together?

What the crap?

1)You don't understand sarcasm.
2)You have a comprehension problem.
3)Yes, you lump people together.

I made the mistake of unmasking your comments when you were quoting me. That's on me. I will refrain from making that mistake again.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

1)You don't understand sarcasm.
2)You have a comprehension problem.
3)Yes, you lump people together.

I made the mistake of unmasking your comments when you were quoting me. That's on me. I will refrain from making that mistake again.

Who did I improperly lump together? No, I don't understand sarcasm when it doesn't make any sense.

[Aargh]

One group, the despicable ones nobody wants to defend, had a right to be there and peacefully protest (permitted by the city). The other group, the one that is PC to support...

Where are these people who are supporting the counter protesters? I haven't run into any of them in this thread, in MSM, not even on CNN. (Although I haven't watched a lot of CNN coverage of this.)

This thing about "if you're not 100% behind my side, then you are obviously supporting and defending the other side" is a bunch of crap and needs to stop.

The moment a group who chooses to associate with and identify themselves as Nazis, it's pretty obvious that they are not going to be well-received by those who do not identify with the Nazi movement. The moment the remnants of the KKK show up, it's pretty obvious they will not be well-received by those who do not believe that whites have a right to subjugate, oppress and exterminate people with different skin color.

Any who identify with those groups and support their causes should expect some pushback from the general population. Instead of realizing that, we are just told that we are supporting the other side, which is not a fact, but rather an attempt to change the conversation to a more suitable topic for them.