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  • #61
    Originally posted by Aargh View Post
    The Health Care Compact was originally thought just to be a rebellion against the ACA. After all, for anything to happen, it had to get through Congress. Then people found out that it included Medicare. That changed the game. If the Republicans take Congress, then there's a real possibility that Congress will approve the Health Care Compact. If Medicare in Kansas goes the same way that Medicaid went, you can bet your ass people who can leave the State for Medicare coverage will do that.

    About elderly people and spending - My mother spends $73,000 a year (all her own money) to live in a care facility for seniors. That's some serious change going into the economy of a small town in Kansas. She doesn't add much to sales taxes, but she personally provides about 2 jobs just by living there.
    A. Who owns the care facility and in what state does it reside? That is where the money goes.

    B. Next to zero of care facility revenue is eligible for sales tax.

    C. Nursing homes and care facilities hire LPN'S mostly, not many RN's. And they hire LPN's on the bottom of the pay scale. From the PT'S to housekeeping, you are talking about mostly low paying jobs. The personnel in these facilities usually do great work but get paid peanuts. You still aren't greatly impacting the economy.

    This is just how it is. Right, wrong, fair or unfair, this is how it is.
    There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
      A. Who owns the care facility and in what state does it reside? That is where the money goes.

      B. Next to zero of care facility revenue is eligible for sales tax.

      C. Nursing homes and care facilities hire LPN'S mostly, not many RN's. And they hire LPN's on the bottom of the pay scale. From the PT'S to housekeeping, you are talking about mostly low paying jobs. The personnel in these facilities usually do great work but get paid peanuts. You still aren't greatly impacting the economy.

      This is just how it is. Right, wrong, fair or unfair, this is how it is.
      A. It more or less owns itself with a board who decides financial matters. My Dad helped organize and build it and was its' Treasurer until he passed away.

      B. My mother, at 94 years of age, is no longer a big consumer contributing to sales taxes, but between the ages of 65 and 93, before she moved to the care facility, she was not shy about paying sales taxes. She is still paying state income taxes, as she owns some farmland that pays a significant chunk of her care home costs.

      C. About 1/2 the employees have nursing licenses and certificates required by the State. The pay scale for those certifications, in the small town where my Mother lives, is around $17/hour. We priced having in-home care for her.
      The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
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      • #63
        The other half make minimum wage. Your housekeeping and food service people, the bulk of the employees, make at or just above minimum wage. Aids make a bit more. Your licensed staff does make more. But.... Starting wage for a new grad RN is $20/ hr. That is low end. So by your own statement that your licensed staff averages $17/ hr. reinforces what I'm trying to say, these jobs aren't great and don't have a huge impact on the state. It might help the local community, but not by much. Plus, people in nursing care don't move, far too traumatic.

        Like I said, however the election goes, the elderly aren't moving. Never have, never will. It's been threatened often, in many states, but never happens. Old people that wanted to leave Kansas already left.
        There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Aargh View Post
          If there is a Republican Senate and Brownback is re-elected, you are going to see a lot of older Kansans with money leave the state.
          The older Kansans who have the means already do. Those who don't have the means, can't. That is not going to change with the election.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
            The older Kansans who have the means already do. Those who don't have the means, can't. That is not going to change with the election.
            Thank you.

            Here is how it works. You live, work and raise a family in a state. You retire where you want to live. If you like Kansas and consider it home, you stay. If you don't like Kansas and other than work, you have few ties, you head to Florida, Arizona or Texas when you retire. If you like Kansas, but hate the winter, you buy a second place in Texas or Arizona, or you time share in Florida.

            Nobody leaves based on the outcome of an election. It gets thrown out there all the time, but the mass exodus never happens.
            There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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            • #66
              Mark Warner has to be sweating bullets right now.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Play Angry View Post
                Mark Warner has to be sweating bullets right now.
                His precincts where he will do well have not hit yet, it looks like he will win.

                Fairfax has 47% - Warner lead 57%-41%
                Craig has on only 9% - this is blue at moment, but so little not sure who it will go to
                Montgomery 84% - Warner lead 49%-47%
                Prince Williams 65% - Tied 49%-49%

                very little red counties votes left to count
                Last edited by SB Shock; November 4, 2014, 09:25 PM.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
                  His precincts where he will do well have not hit yet, it looks like he will win.
                  Yep but 1% projected MOV can't feel great when polls had you up double digits yesterday. Whoever the campaign manager was, he better have a comfortable nest egg b/c his career is over.

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                  • #69
                    Drudgereport has the headline that KS is "tight", but when you click through there are no numbers. Wonder where he's getting his info?
                    Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
                      Drudgereport has the headline that KS is "tight", but when you click through there are no numbers. Wonder where he's getting his info?
                      Nevermind, apparently just an issue with my phone, because with the laptop I can see the results.
                      Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Play Angry View Post
                        Yep but 1% projected MOV can't feel great when polls had you up double digits yesterday. Whoever the campaign manager was, he better have a comfortable nest egg b/c his career is over.
                        yeah I guess, but polls are never 100%. I haven't followed the VA race but it could be they didn't have enough polling

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                        • #72
                          Kansas is going to have a Democrat governor.
                          Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                          • #73
                            Looks like Roberts will beat Orman.
                            Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
                              Kansas is going to have a Democrat governor.
                              I suppose there's an outside chance that Brownback could make up ground with the western half of the state, but I doubt it. He's getting trounced pretty good at the moment: 50/46%

                              Edit: Whoa! Brownback the comeback kid? Now 49/47 with only 34% reporting.
                              Last edited by Kung Wu; November 4, 2014, 10:05 PM.
                              Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                              • #75
                                One network has called CO for Gardner. Huge win for the Rs.

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