2024 Presidential Election

[Shockm]

Being a VP to Trump would kill his career. I'm not entirely sure if Desantis would help or hurt him.

Trump needs to go away and stay out of it. His ego won't allow it though.

Probably should............................................ .......... but I have to say that Biden is at the bottom of anyone on my list, except for his VP.

[SubGod22]

Probably should............................................ .......... but I have to say that Biden is at the bottom of anyone on my list, except for his VP.

As bad as Biden has been, I'm still not sure Trump would beat him. Even if he did, Trump wouldn't be doing anything to actually help build the Republican party and would just keep the party very fractured and make it easy for the Dems/Left to continue with their vitriolic approach to politics.

Regardless of what Trump supporters think, he's not very well liked by most. Many voted for him simply because he wasn't Biden. Though many more voted for Biden simply because he wasn't Trump. I only know one or two people personally who were actual supporters of Trump and were fully behind him. If he wins the nomination again, I think you'll see even more Republican/Conservative types stay home or vote 3rd Party because I know many of them are sick of Trump and his approach to things.

You can stand up to the left without being a complete douchecanoe.

Unfortunately, unless something crazy happens, I'm sure Trump will get the nomination and we're all in for a **** show. If he does win, I hope the respectable types like Scott stay away from him and continues to build his name and rep away from that Nut House.

[Shockm]

As bad as Biden has been, I'm still not sure Trump would beat him. Even if he did, Trump wouldn't be doing anything to actually help build the Republican party.
Unfortunately, unless something crazy happens, I'm sure Trump will get the nomination and we're all in for a **** show. If he does win, I hope the respectable types like Scott stay away from him and continues to build his name and rep away from that Nut House.

Agree with a lot of what you said. However, the **** show is what we are seeing in real time right now. Nobody likes Biden either. He's farther underwater than Trump was. This is all about one 4 year term, because neither can run again. I'd rather have a Socialist like Bernie win, because at least he's honest on how liberal he is. The moderate Democrats have disappeared.

Hopefully, things change, but Bragg, the Manhattan NY District Attorney and media isn't allowing anyone but Trump to get any traction. The Republican Party isn't really fractured, but the MM only gives Trump oxygen, and they never mention Biden's failings on their channels. That's the **** show.

[wufan]

Agree with a lot of what you said. However, the **** show is what we are seeing in real time right now. Nobody likes Biden either. He's farther underwater than Trump was. This is all about one 4 year term, because neither can run again. I'd rather have a Socialist like Bernie win, because at least he's honest on how liberal he is. The moderate Democrats have disappeared.

Hopefully, things change, but Bragg, the Manhattan NY District Attorney and media isn't allowing anyone but Trump to get any traction. The Republican Party isn't really fractured, but the MM only gives Trump oxygen, and they never mention Biden's failings on their channels. That's the **** show.

I’m sure there will be plenty of fortification for the Democrat no matter who is the nominee from either party.

[1972Shocker]

I know he has no shot at winning the Republican primary but I really like Vivek Ramaswamy. Would make a great Vice Presidential pick that you could actually delegate some things to and get things done. Now if your are into modern day wokeness you won't like this guy at all.

A couple of recent articles:

This Beat-Down's for You, Bud: Vivek Ramaswamy Blasts Dylan Mulvaney Madness and 'Gender Insanity Cult'

https://redstate.com/mike_miller/202...y-cult-n730125

'America First 2.0': Vivek Ramaswamy Continues to Impress, Rolls out Bold 25-Point Plan

https://redstate.com/mike_miller/202...t-plan-n731399

Obviously brilliant, Ramaswamy’s crisp articulation of the issues and ability to incisively communicate his positions has gained national attention for one simple reason: He means what he says, he’s not afraid to say what he thinks, and he doesn’t give a damn about butthurt naysayers on the left.

The bottom line, here, is Vivek Ramaswamy makes too much sense for Republicans to overlook.

America First 2.0 Platform: https://www.vivek2024.com/america-first-2-0

[SB Shock]

He's farther underwater than Trump was.

Approval of Presidents at this point in their first term

GHW Bush 76.0%
GH Bush 71%
Obama 45.5%
Clinton 44.9%
Biden 43.2%
Trump 41.6%
Reagan 41.1%
Carter 39.8%

[Shockm]

Approval of Presidents at this point in their first term

GHW Bush 76.0%
GH Bush 71%
Obama 45.5%
Clinton 44.9%
Biden 43.2%
Trump 41.6%
Reagan 41.1%
Carter 39.8%

So now you're a Biden guy? I thought you were more of a Conservative libertarian. Interesting.

[Shockm]

I've heard a number of libertarians on here giving some support to Thomas Massie who is an independent minded Conservative. But they often seem to be inconsistent. Well here is Thomas Massie's 2024 Presidential candidate.

“America needs a leader who is decisive, respects the Constitution, understands policy, puts family first, and leads by inspiring,” Massie said. “That’s why I’m endorsing Ron DeSantis for President.”

“If we make the right choices, America’s best days are in front of us. Let’s pick a proven energetic leader who can get us there,” he continued. “Let’s choose Ron DeSantis for President.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ntis-for-2024/

[SubGod22]

So now you're a Biden guy? I thought you were more of a Conservative libertarian. Interesting.

He's a Biden guy because he showed numbers that proved your comment wrong? Fact is, neither had/have great approval ratings because neither were/are great or unifying in any way, even within their own parties.

[Shockm]

He's a Biden guy because he showed numbers that proved your comment wrong? Fact is, neither had/have great approval ratings because neither were/are great or unifying in any way, even within their own parties.

This is a board without much accountability, so Anybody on here can be as politically, and intellectually dishonest as you want, and as you say I am.

[SB Shock]

So now you're a Biden guy? I thought you were more of a Conservative libertarian. Interesting.

LOL, You being wrong again doesn't mean anything except you were wrong again.

[SB Shock]

I've heard a number of libertarians on here giving some support to Thomas Massie who is an independent minded Conservative. But they often seem to be inconsistent. Well here is Thomas Massie's 2024 Presidential candidate.

“America needs a leader who is decisive, respects the Constitution, understands policy, puts family first, and leads by inspiring,” Massie said. “That’s why I’m endorsing Ron DeSantis for President.”

“If we make the right choices, America’s best days are in front of us. Let’s pick a proven energetic leader who can get us there,” he continued. “Let’s choose Ron DeSantis for President.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ntis-for-2024/

DeSantis has made some bad political decisions recently. He had the Republican nomination sitting on a silver platter, but his missteps have destroyed all of his momentum. In poll released today Trump has expanded his lead over to Desantis by 37 points [Trump 58%, DeSantis 21%].

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3970519-trump-widens-lead-over-desantis-to-37-points-in-new-poll/

DeSantis is under the illusion that he’s projecting strength and not, in fact, looking incredibly pathetic.

[SB Shock]

Trump has announced that he will be following the Democrats lead and will not be participating in any primary debates.

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/no-tr...ed-and-abused/

“When you’re leading by seemingly insurmountable numbers, and you have hostile Networks with angry, TRUMP & MAGA hating anchors asking the ‘questions,’ why to subject yourself to being libeled and abused?”

[wufan]

DeSantis has made some bad political decisions recently. He had the Republican nomination sitting on a silver platter, but his missteps have destroyed all of his momentum. In poll released today Trump has expanded his lead over to Desantis by 37 points [Trump 58%, DeSantis 21%].

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3970519-trump-widens-lead-over-desantis-to-37-points-in-new-poll/

Just curious. What missteps has he had that make him look weak?

[pinstripers]

Joe Biden will once again get protection on the campaign road from the Democratic National Committee. This time, “Basement Joe,” who was charged by his detractors of avoiding political activities during the COVID epidemic, will be exempt from participating in the Democratic primary debates.

ya know, cause he can't answer questions, can't understand questions, can't hear questions, can't walk to the podium......