Russia-Ukraine War

[pinstripers]

I believe it was wind + drought + tilling leading to the dust bowl, not wind + tilling leading to drought.

THIS

[Shockm]

For 30 years Ukraine has been a sovereign country, partially controlled by Russia and partially by the west, receiving aid from both. It literally translates to “borderland” which is why it is most often referred to as “the Ukraine”.

It is not a “return to normal” for Ukraine to be independent, rather it is a return to the last 30 years of history and ignoring the previous millennia.

Your historical statement of the Ukraine is quite simplistic, and leaves out a lot of understanding of the people there. While it is true that Ukraine has been under the rule of different nations (and many wars for the territory) for the past several hundred years (Lithuania, Poland, Russia, etc.), the people who lived there (especially in rural areas) have been largely left alone to live their own lives without governmental interference. Therefore, the cultural customs, languages, food, religion, etc. have been created from many nationalities. These people have also been abused by many nationalities during different periods of time, (including German Nazi's, during WW2). Therefore, when the Bolsheviks came into the country in the early 1900's there was a lot of lawlessness, followed by Stalin who ruled with a heavy hand, and lasted throughout the time of Soviet rule, although the Soviets rule included a short interruption by German Nazi rule during the late 30's and early 40's.

https://www.rochester.edu/newscenter...-putin-513812/

"Mass Ukrainian nationalism emerged out of the traumas of the 20th century. Like Ukraine, there are plenty of states in Europe now that don’t have a long tradition of statehood. Putin claims that there’s not a Ukrainian history separate from Russian. But that’s not true. Among the speakers of Ukrainian and in the lands now comprising Ukraine, there were many different experiences. They belonged at times to different states and realms. But there was interaction between Ukrainian speakers throughout much of this history, and they developed a common identity, especially after the mid-19th century.

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What made Ukraine historically a place of “borders and mixing”?

• Ukraine is an area of various ethnicities, including nomads, absent of clear religious or physical boundaries.

The word “Ukraine” derives from a Slavic root, which can mean “frontier,” “edge,” “border,” or “outlands.” It has always been a place of borders and mixing, although the country itself didn’t exist yet, including the border between the steppe and the forest zone, which is extremely important in terms of the sorts of people who lived here. You have the mixing of many ethnicities: different Slavic ethnicities, Turkic peoples. Eventually, you get Jews, Germans, people who come to be called Poles, Greeks, people who spoke Iranian languages, and so on. Religious boundaries were equally fuzzy between the Orthodox Christian Church and the Catholic Christian Church, with Islam thrown in."


I think that the one thing that unifies the modern Ukrainian people in the past 30 years, is that for the first time, they have been (largely anyway) a democracy that has been self ruled for the first time, without a tyrant, and as a people (who includes a lot of citizens of Russian language, customs, etc.) they have been allowed more new freedoms (which can have a large drawback, and opens itself to corruption abuses). As a group of people, they don't want to go back to being ruled by a tyrant any longer, and feel closer to the western democracies than Russia.

[1972Shocker]

During a press conference Thursday in Warsaw with Polish President Andrzej Duda, Harris was asked about the ongoing flood of refugees into the country. Duda was also asked a question. After a brief pause, she broke into laughter over which leader should answer first.

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1501901624943464449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1501901624943464449%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftownhall.com%2Ftipsheet%2Fkatiepavlich%2F2022%2F03%2F10%2Fkamala-harris-had-another-laughing-incident-in-poland-n2604375

[Kung Wu]

During a press conference Thursday in Warsaw with Polish President Andrzej Duda, Harris was asked about the ongoing flood of refugees into the country. Duda was also asked a question. After a brief pause, she broke into laughter over which leader should answer first.

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/stat...oland-n2604375

Harris is terribly inexperienced and had her fair share of embarrassing moments, but this isn't one of them. This is just some guy on Twitter trying to make something of nothing.

[1972Shocker]

Harris is terribly inexperienced and had her fair share of embarrassing moments, but this isn't one of them. This is just some guy on Twitter trying to make something of nothing.

Your probably accurate in your assessment. Politico reported that administration officials “say she’s not [in Poland] to make any deals, whether it be on humanitarian aid or the transfer of military equipment. Instead, her role is to serve as an emissary and an emblem of the administration’s commitment to the country and the trans-Atlantic alliance more broadly.”

On the other hand this Fox news reporter was not very complimentary although he was largely expressing opinions as much or more than reporting facts:

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1501940920639320067?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1501940920639320067%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fredstate.com%2Fsister-toldjah%2F2022%2F03%2F10%2Ffox-news-reporter-rips-into-kamala-over-detached-from-reality-press-conference-in-poland-n534136

Perhaps the issue is that the Biden Administration has not made it clear enough what the purpose of her trip is which sounds like it's more about photo ops than doing anything substantive.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

During a press conference Thursday in Warsaw with Polish President Andrzej Duda, Harris was asked about the ongoing flood of refugees into the country. Duda was also asked a question. After a brief pause, she broke into laughter over which leader should answer first.

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/stat...oland-n2604375

Cringy. She is a bimbo.

[wufan]

Your historical statement of the Ukraine is quite simplistic, and leaves out a lot of understanding of the people there. While it is true that Ukraine has been under the rule of different nations (and many wars for the territory) for the past several hundred years (Lithuania, Poland, Russia, etc.), the people who lived there (especially in rural areas) have been largely left alone to live their own lives without governmental interference. Therefore, the cultural customs, languages, food, religion, etc. have been created from many nationalities. These people have also been abused by many nationalities during different periods of time, (including German Nazi's, during WW2). Therefore, when the Bolsheviks came into the country in the early 1900's there was a lot of lawlessness, followed by Stalin who ruled with a heavy hand, and lasted throughout the time of Soviet rule, although the Soviets rule included a short interruption by German Nazi rule during the late 30's and early 40's.

https://www.rochester.edu/newscenter...-putin-513812/

"Mass Ukrainian nationalism emerged out of the traumas of the 20th century. Like Ukraine, there are plenty of states in Europe now that don’t have a long tradition of statehood. Putin claims that there’s not a Ukrainian history separate from Russian. But that’s not true. Among the speakers of Ukrainian and in the lands now comprising Ukraine, there were many different experiences. They belonged at times to different states and realms. But there was interaction between Ukrainian speakers throughout much of this history, and they developed a common identity, especially after the mid-19th century.

---

What made Ukraine historically a place of “borders and mixing”?

• Ukraine is an area of various ethnicities, including nomads, absent of clear religious or physical boundaries.

The word “Ukraine” derives from a Slavic root, which can mean “frontier,” “edge,” “border,” or “outlands.” It has always been a place of borders and mixing, although the country itself didn’t exist yet, including the border between the steppe and the forest zone, which is extremely important in terms of the sorts of people who lived here. You have the mixing of many ethnicities: different Slavic ethnicities, Turkic peoples. Eventually, you get Jews, Germans, people who come to be called Poles, Greeks, people who spoke Iranian languages, and so on. Religious boundaries were equally fuzzy between the Orthodox Christian Church and the Catholic Christian Church, with Islam thrown in."


I think that the one thing that unifies the modern Ukrainian people in the past 30 years, is that for the first time, they have been (largely anyway) a democracy that has been self ruled for the first time, without a tyrant, and as a people (who includes a lot of citizens of Russian language, customs, etc.) they have been allowed more new freedoms (which can have a large drawback, and opens itself to corruption abuses). As a group of people, they don't want to go back to being ruled by a tyrant any longer, and feel closer to the western democracies than Russia.

I don’t think any of that changes my original point, which was and still is that Ukraine being sort of self-governing was not the normal throughout history…which was the original claim I was refuting.

[1972Shocker]

As for oil production, the US doesn't need to drill another single well to drop crude prices. No industry buys the rumor and sells the fact for than the energy sector. The fact that leases have been frozen, pipelines have been canceled and future production has been limited, has created a rumor of scarcity. Speculation has driven up prices, at the same time, OPEC has responded by squeezing up the price per barrel.

The price of gas will drop the moment the US reverses policy on domestic production. In fact, not one more well needs to be drilled. Simply the ability of the US to drill would cause a decline in crude oil prices.

6 Biden Lackeys Who Pledged to Kill American Oil and Gas

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/03/10/biden-officials-who-pledged-to-kill-american-fossil-fuels-n2604364

I think it is pretty clear that rising oil and gas prices is part of the Biden administrations plan. They are getting what they want. Perhaps they underestimated how much that would impact the overall inflation rate but it is hard to believe they would be that dumb (although it's possible they are).

[wichshock65]

6 Biden Lackeys Who Pledged to Kill American Oil and Gas

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/03/10/biden-officials-who-pledged-to-kill-american-fossil-fuels-n2604364

I think it is pretty clear that rising oil and gas prices is part of the Biden administrations plan. They are getting what they want. Perhaps they underestimated how much that would impact the overall inflation rate but it is hard to believe they would be that dumb (although it's possible they are).

Absolutely it's part of the plan. The administration is coming right out and saying it!

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1501687026835501057?t=WCUIz3-fvrlZA3KZVOu26Q&s=19

[pinstripers]

61% of the electricity in the United States is generated from fossil fuels.

[C0|dB|00ded]

C'mon guys... fight the urge to slip into undisciplined conspiratorial thinking. I know it's seductive, easy, temporarily satisfying... but it leaves you trapped and the ****er/Hannity's are using it to control you and raise your blood pressure.

I posted the drilling data. We are hauling a ****-ton of oil out of the ground. Just as much as during the Trump era. Production growth slowed due to the pandemic.

And yes, the Dims run on a clean earth platform. Some of it is good, the artificial market manipulation is bad. There's nothing wrong with vocally encouraging citizens to choose more environmentally friendly cars, homes, etc. Less pollution is better than more regardless of any global warming impact - so is energy independence. And oil is NOT the only way to energy independence.

[C0|dB|00ded]

Harris is terribly inexperienced and had her fair share of embarrassing moments, but this isn't one of them. This is just some guy on Twitter trying to make something of nothing.

Sublimely rational post. I enjoyed reading it.

[C0|dB|00ded]

61% of the electricity in the United States is generated from fossil fuels.

And that will change.

https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2022/03/01/americans-largely-favor-u-s-taking-steps-to-become-carbon-neutral-by-2050/

Americans Largely Favor U.S. Taking Steps To Become Carbon Neutral by 2050

But just 31% want to phase out use of fossil fuels completely

The new Pew Research Center survey of 10,237 U.S. adults conducted from Jan. 24 to 30, 2022, finds that 69% of U.S. adults prioritize developing alternative energy sources, such as wind and solar, over expanding the production of oil, coal and natural gas. The same share (69%) favors the U.S. taking steps to become carbon neutral by 2050, a key component of President Joe Biden’s climate and energy policy agenda.

A relatively small share of Americans (31%) believe the U.S. should phase out the use of oil, coal and natural gas completely; far more (67%) say the country should use a mix of fossil fuel and renewable energy sources. Officials are considering ways to remove carbon emissions from the atmosphere through tree plantings as well as carbon capture and storage techniques.

The survey was conducted prior to escalating tensions and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine that have driven increased uncertainty in global energy markets.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

C'mon guys... fight the urge to slip into undisciplined conspiratorial thinking. I know it's seductive, easy, temporarily satisfying... but it leaves you trapped and the ****er/Hannity's are using it to control you and raise your blood pressure.

I posted the drilling data. We are hauling a ****-ton of oil out of the ground. Just as much as during the Trump era. Production growth slowed due to the pandemic.

And yes, the Dims run on a clean earth platform. Some of it is good, the artificial market manipulation is bad. There's nothing wrong with vocally encouraging citizens to choose more environmentally friendly cars, homes, etc. Less pollution is better than more regardless of any global warming impact - so is energy independence. And oil is NOT the only way to energy independence.

The issue I have is they are creating false claims about global warming and using it to prey on naive people's fears. Also, they act like it is as simple as flipping a switch and shutting off fossil fuels and making everything electric. Not to mention pins point above that it takes fossil fuels to create electricity so they are not telling the truth. They act like electricity is this clean form that is transformational and it is not yet. I am all for utilizing solar power on homes, which I have, and looking in to alternative forms of transportation, but lets not act like it is some all saving thing. I am also not a fan of big government telling people what is best for them. Let people make their own decisions. I don't need a bunch of people who are better off on Sesame Street than running the country telling me what is best for me and my family.

[Kung Wu]

61% of the electricity in the United States is generated from fossil fuels.

No problem, we'll just do what we did with electric cars and force the plants to convert to all electric.