Trump 2020

[Shockm]

I haven't seen this Peace Agreement mentioned anywhere.

Could Joe Biden have done this? Obama didn't even try hard. He spent his time wooing Iran when most Arab countries close to Israel are enemies of Iran. Iran, instead used the millions of dollars Obama sent to them to cause discontent in the Palestinian Region, and has slowed peace down. In fact Palestinian's have rejected a two state agreement in the past. In fact, the Obama administration was an adversary to Israel, and didn't back them very much.

Trump administration brings the Third Arab State to normalize relations with Israel. Now Sudan, UAE, and Bahrain have relations with Israel.

“These are the toughest negotiations in the world — to broker peace between Israel and the Arab and Islamic world, but we’re confident that we think there are a couple of other countries that are going to get on board soon,” he said. “And we’re looking forward to that.”

It is thought that Saudi Arabia isn't too far behind.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rob...-could-be-next

[pinstripers]

I haven't seen this Peace Agreement mentioned anywhere.

Could Joe Biden have done this? Obama didn't even try hard. He spent his time wooing Iran when most Arab countries close to Israel are enemies of Iran. Iran, instead used the millions of dollars Obama sent to them to cause discontent in the Palestinian Region, and has slowed peace down. In fact Palestinian's have rejected a two state agreement in the past. In fact, the Obama administration was an adversary to Israel, and didn't back them very much.

Trump administration brings the Third Arab State to normalize relations with Israel. Now Sudan, UAE, and Bahrain have relations with Israel.

“These are the toughest negotiations in the world — to broker peace between Israel and the Arab and Islamic world, but we’re confident that we think there are a couple of other countries that are going to get on board soon,” he said. “And we’re looking forward to that.”

It is thought that Saudi Arabia isn't too far behind.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rob...-could-be-next

I realize that I am a Trumper, but even so, this is nothing short of earth-shattering news

[wichshock65]

[wichshock65]

[BOBB]

I will make no bets about who will win the electoral college and therefore the Presidency, but I will wager $100 to the charity of your choice and vice versa that he doesn't win the popular vote. I'll go one further and spot you 3,000,000 votes. That poll is hot garbage.

[ShockerFever]

I will make no bets about who will win the electoral college and therefore the Presidency, but I will wager $100 to the charity of your choice and vice versa that he doesn't win the popular vote. I'll go one further and spot you 3,000,000 votes. That poll is hot garbage.

Well duh. The coasts always go left and thankfully we have the electoral college in place so they don’t run the country by themselves.

[WuDrWu]

Well duh. The coasts always go left and thankfully we have the electoral college in place so they don’t run the country by themselves.

Plus, right or wrong (I happen to think that it's a little wrong but that's just me) President Trump has made no effort to campaign, which would certainly narrow the vote count while not changing the electoral count, in hugely populated areas like California, New York and Illinois. You can't say with any credibility that he couldn't narrow 3 million + votes with a strong ground game in just those 3 states.

Right now the popular vote isn't worth, and I say this with all due respect, a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin getting it on.

[WuDrWu]

The Trafalgar poll quoted above, while very predictive 4 years ago, has some serious flaws this time around (at least this latest one did). I'm not saying Trump isn't going to win Michigan (I actually think this is the big state to watch.....Trump really needs it and if it's called early for Biden, it's going to be a GOP bloodbath everywhere, but if it's called fairly early for Trump, it just might evoke a wave of 4 more years) or other states they say he's leading, but no way is Trump a +20 among 18-25 year old voters, nor is he at 33% with black voters. Those numbers are just too skewed to put too much weight on that particular poll.

[BOBB]

wichshock65 we doing this?

[BOBB]

The Trafalgar poll quoted above, while very predictive 4 years ago, has some serious flaws this time around (at least this latest one did). I'm not saying Trump isn't going to win Michigan (I actually think this is the big state to watch.....Trump really needs it and if it's called early for Biden, it's going to be a GOP bloodbath everywhere, but if it's called fairly early for Trump, it just might evoke a wave of 4 more years) or other states they say he's leading, but no way is Trump a +20 among 18-25 year old voters, nor is he at 33% with black voters. Those numbers are just too skewed to put too much weight on that particular poll.

If NC or GA are called for Biden you can go to bed and stop watching coverage. Unless you're curious what happens in Texas. I don't see that one happening for Biden, btw.

[wichshock65]

wichshock65 we doing this?

LOL, I'm not that confident. It's been a hell of a year so who knows what the heck can happen.

Tell you what tho, if we are at the same Shocker game, I'll buy you a beer (or nachos, popcorn, whatever) and happily shake your hand. Will that work?

[MoValley John]

Plus, right or wrong (I happen to think that it's a little wrong but that's just me) President Trump has made no effort to campaign, which would certainly narrow the vote count while not changing the electoral count, in hugely populated areas like California, New York and Illinois. You can't say with any credibility that he couldn't narrow 3 million + votes with a strong ground game in just those 3 states.

Right now the popular vote isn't worth, and I say this with all due respect, a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin getting it on.

Where can I get a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin getting it on? I have the walrus and the manatee, I need this to complete the series.

[WuDrWu]

Where can I get a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin getting it on? I have the walrus and the manatee, I need this to complete the series.

Infield gift shop, Talladega Superspeedway, 3366 Speedway Blvd, Lincoln, Alabama 35096

[WuDrWu]

I will make no bets about who will win the electoral college and therefore the Presidency, but I will wager $100 to the charity of your choice and vice versa that he doesn't win the popular vote. I'll go one further and spot you 3,000,000 votes. That poll is hot garbage.

I'll take that bet, not because I think Trump will cover that (I don't) but because a charity needs $100 and we all need the good will. Can I stipulate the charity be local (and not BLM)? It's not a deal breaker, I'm just asking.

For the sake of openness, I would select wch.com but I am more than open to suggestions or otherwise.

[BOBB]

I'll take that bet, not because I think Trump will cover that (I don't) but because a charity needs $100 and we all need the good will. Can I stipulate the charity be local (and not BLM)? It's not a deal breaker, I'm just asking.

For the sake of openness, I would select wch.com but I am more than open to suggestions or otherwise.

Planned Parenthood of Wichita?

Edit: WCH is good either direction