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OMG - this means Cold will leave this here chat room and start infecting other chat rooms with his idiocracy.
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Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
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Here is a coherent critique on vaccine passports, mask mandates, vaccine mandates and the like. No this Doctor is not a COVID denier, but looks at the situation very practically evaluating what actually works vs what makes someone feel good. He also addresses therapeutics, ventilation, vaccines for kids etc.
Enough Already of the Covid State | RealClearScience
Summing Up a Hard Situation
"I don’t want to sound callous. I don’t want anyone to die or suffer from Covid-19 unnecessarily. But I do think we are over-rating the benefits of our marginally-useful public health interventions, and underestimating their true costs. It’s hard to know what will come next in this pandemic; if Omicron will indeed prove milder and stay a while, or whether France will export its new B.1.640.2 variant, or if something new and different comes along. At some point, we are likely to need a central disease response that inspires confidence.
The U.S. has become a nation divided. To the red states, the blues are oppressive; to the blue states, the reds are reckless. Everyone is angry at the CDC, for either being too easy on Covid-19 transmission or too hard on society. Accelerating the geographic clumping of our populace by political belief is a destructive force — socially, politically, and economically.
I don’t know if the problem is fixable. I do think we should do what we can to slow the process, by only moving to limit personal freedoms when there is convincing evidence of necessity. A softer approach to managing the pandemic might cost little in terms of lives and suffering, but save greatly in terms of our ability to function as a nation."
Buzz Hollander, MD is a family physician on the Big Island of Hawaii with no ideological axes to grind. He tweets @buzzhollandermd.
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In just four weeks, Omicron jumped from an estimated 8% of new Covid-19 infections to an estimated 95% of new infections, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Children's hospitals across the US are reporting pandemic-high hospitalizations as doctors say vaccinations for kids are critical
"We would be foolish to keep minimizing Covid-19 in children at this point in the pandemic," she said.Early research suggests Omicron may cause more upper airway problems, unlike previous strains that caused lower airway problems. However, upper airway conditions can be more dangerous for children than adults.
"We cannot treat the airways of children like they are the airways of adults," she said. "It's just not the way it works. And for us pediatricians, we know that respiratory viruses can lead to ... croup and bronchiolitis, that inflammation of the upper airways that does get in children in trouble."
Versalovic said Monday of the children at their facility needing care, "It's clear that the majority of cases either have Covid-19 as a primary factor or as a significant contributing factor to their hospitalization.More than 100,000 people hospitalized with Covid-19 in US for first time in nearly four months | CNNMore than 103,000 people are currently hospitalized with Covid-19, the first time the total has reached six figures in nearly four months, according to the latest data from the US Department of Health and Human Services.
More than 100,000 people hospitalized with Covid-19 in US for first time in nearly four months
More than 103,000 people are currently hospitalized with Covid-19, the first time the total has reached six figures in nearly four months, according to the latest data from the US Department of Health and Human Services.
Covid-19 hospitalizations reached a record high of more than 142,000 about a year ago, on January 14, 2021, and last topped 100,000 on September 11. The total fell to about 45,000 hospitalizations in early November, but increased steadily since then, and surged in the last week. Just last Monday, HHS reported 71,000 Covid-19 hospitalizations.
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Even if you were 100% right about everything since day 1 (and you aren't but I teed that one up for you, you're welcome) this is where we're at today:
You can wish everyone got jabbed.
You can wish everyone ate healthy and so many of us weren't obese.
You can wish people didn't abuse drugs, smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol to abuse.
You can wish people drove safely.
You can wish we didn't have gangs and mobs and thieves and people who abuse children.
But none of things are going to happen everywhere because we live (at least today) in a free society. And that means, unfortunately, some have the freedom to make bad decisions.
You and all your perfect and brilliant friends, experts and doctors etc can keep sounding the jab bell all you want. It's really not going to make that much difference. There are people out there that just aren't going to get jabbed. Over 91% over 40 are jabbed. And I would even argue that SOME of these stubborn few holdouts might even decide to get jabbed if you left them alone and they stopped feeling pushed (since you've never been a parent, I can see where this kind of manipulation eludes you).
The fear porn forced on society by the media and politicians and water carriers like you cause more problems now than they solve. It's a waste of time, energy & resources. We now have experts and media trying to tell people to not use the hospital for testing etc. The stupidity seriously has no bounds.
We should be focusing and spending all our resources on treating the ill and proactively being able to treat the next wave of illness. We should have ramped up antibody treatment supplies and locations months ago. This has been a COMPLETE failure at the Federal level.
But keep pushing lies about pediatric hospitalizations WITH Covid instead of because of Covid. Keep fear mongering....it's worked SO well to date.
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Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
You can wish we didn't have gangs and mobs and thieves and people who abuse children.
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Originally posted by WuDrWu View PostEven if you were 100% right about everything since day 1 (and you aren't...)
Originally posted by WuDrWu View PostYou and all your perfect and brilliant friends, experts and doctors etc can keep sounding the jab bell all you want. It's really not going to make that much difference.
Originally posted by WuDrWu View PostThe fear porn forced on society by the media and politicians and water carriers like you cause more problems now than they solve.
Originally posted by WuDrWu View PostBut keep pushing lies about pediatric hospitalizations WITH Covid instead of because of Covid. Keep fear mongering....it's worked SO well to date.
"Versalovic said Monday of the children at their facility needing care, "It's clear that the majority of cases either have Covid-19 as a primary factor or as a significant contributing factor to their hospitalization."
Your kneejerk reaction, followed by a propaganda vomit is affecting your reading comprehension. Unplug.
In closing: Children ARE getting more sick from Covid than they did in the past. This is no longer a debate amongst rational-minded individuals.
Be safe my friend!
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Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
You almost lost me here. As incredible as my record has been since day one, nobody is perfect. So we are in agreement. Moving on...
But it IS making a difference. Consistent messaging from "the top" has helped. Mandates have also helped.
I don't carry anybody's water. My opinions and comments are my own. My knowledge is also my own - with much of it originating from those more knowledgeable than I at one point (it's called learning).
Did you even read my quote? Here, I'll repost it for you:
"Versalovic said Monday of the children at their facility needing care, "It's clear that the majority of cases either have Covid-19 as a primary factor or as a significant contributing factor to their hospitalization."
Your kneejerk reaction, followed by a propaganda vomit is affecting your reading comprehension. Unplug.
In closing: Children ARE getting more sick from Covid than they did in the past. This is no longer a debate amongst rational-minded individuals.
Be safe my friend!
As Doc stated, the fear police detract more than they help. You are actually killing more people than you think you are helping.
You seriously are a lost cause.Last edited by ShockerFever; January 4, 2022, 12:48 PM.Deuces Valley.
... No really, deuces.
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Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
Well when you have a million people per day getting infected , of course it means a few more kids are gonna get it. Man, you’re BRILLIANT.
As Doc stated, the fear police detract more than they help. You are actually killing more people than you think you are helping.
You seriously are a lost cause.
Let us recap your latest oral defecation:
'Fever: Warning people of danger and offering a proven solution is actually killing more people than it's helping.
****ing moron lol.
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