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  • #91
    We're gonna start hearing ALOT about tomorrow very soon on news outlets.....

    DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
    NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
    1216 PM CDT MON MAY 23 2011

    VALID 241200Z - 251200Z

    ...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM NWRN TX TO SRN NEB...

    ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS SURROUNDING THE MDT RISK OVER
    THE SRN/CNTRL PLAINS THROUGH THE OH/TN VALLEY TO SRN NY...

    ...TORNADIC OUTBREAK POSSIBLE ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PLAINS
    TUESDAY. AN UPGRADE TO HIGH RISK MAY BE WARRANTED AS SITUATION
    BECOMES MORE CERTAIN...


    A CLASSIC PLAINS TORNADIC OUTBREAK APPEARS TO BE EVOLVING ACROSS THE
    CNTRL/SRN PLAINS...ESPECIALLY FOR KANSAS AND OKLAHOMA.
    LATEST MODEL
    GUIDANCE IS CONSISTENT REGARDING THE PROGRESSION OF A VERY STRONG
    MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGH...CURRENTLY DIGGING ESEWD ACROSS SRN
    CA...INTO THE SWRN U.S./SRN ROCKIES BEFORE EJECTING INTO THE PLAINS
    BY PEAK HEATING. A VERY DIFFLUENT UPPER FLOW REGIME WILL OVERSPREAD
    THE PLAINS AS 30-60M 12HR HEIGHT FALLS EDGE EWD. ADDITIONALLY...H5
    SPEED MAX APPROACHING 80-90KT...AS NOTED IN THE GFS...WILL RACE TO A
    POSITION OVER NWRN TX/SWRN OK BY 25/00Z WHICH WILL GENERATE VERY
    STRONG SHEAR ACROSS THE WARM SECTOR FOR AREAS NEAR THE RED RIVER
    REGION...NWD INTO KS AND EVEN SRN NEB. NEEDLESS TO SAY A VERY
    DYNAMIC SHORTWAVE TROUGH SHOULD TIME FAVORABLY FOR RAPID SEVERE
    THUNDERSTORM INITIATION ALONG/AHEAD OF THE DRYLINE AS ATMOSPHERIC
    HEATING IS MAXIMIZED.

    EARLY IN THE MORNING A FEW THUNDERSTORM CLUSTERS MAY BE ONGOING
    WITHIN THE STRONGEST ZONE OF WARM ADVECTION FROM KS EWD INTO MO AND
    THE LOWER OH VALLEY. THIS REGION OF ASCENT AND STORMS MAY
    TEMPORARILY FORCE A CONVECTIVE OUTFLOW INTO NRN AR...NWWD INTO SRN
    KS. HOWEVER...A NWD RETREAT IS LIKELY TO AT LEAST THE I-70 CORRIDOR
    IN KS AS DAYTIME HEATING OCCURS ACROSS THE WARM SECTOR. FOR THIS
    REASON IT APPEARS A VERY UNSTABLE AIRMASS WILL BE IN PLACE FROM NRN
    TX INTO SRN KS WHERE SBCAPE VALUES COULD EXCEED 5000 J/KG WHERE SFC
    DEW POINTS HOLD IN THE LOWER 70S. FORECAST SOUNDINGS ACROSS THE
    WARM SECTOR EXHIBIT CLASSIC TORNADIC SUPERCELL STRUCTURES WITH
    STRONG LOW LEVEL HELICITY ACROSS KS/OK WITH DEEP LAYER SHEAR ON THE
    ORDER OF 50-60KT. BY MID AFTERNOON...STRONG HEATING SHOULD BE NOTED
    ALONG/WEST OF THE DRYLINE FORCING TEMPERATURES TO SOAR WELL INTO THE
    90S...EFFECTIVELY REMOVING INHIBITION FOR CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT
    WHERE LOW LEVEL CONVERGENCE IS MAXIMIZED. AT THIS TIME IT APPEARS
    TSTMS SHOULD INITIATE ALONG THE DRYLINE BY 21Z...ALTHOUGH ACTIVITY
    COULD DEVELOP MUCH QUICKER WITHIN THE STRONGER FORCING ACROSS THE
    CNTRL HIGH PLAINS TO THE NORTH-EAST OF THE SFC LOW WITHIN STRONGEST
    UPSLOPE FLOW.

    WHILE DRYLINE SUPERCELLS LIFE CYCLE WILL BE MAXIMIZED BETWEEN
    21Z-04Z...STRONG WARM ADVECTION ACROSS THE CNTRL PLAINS SHOULD
    MAINTAIN A ZONE OF CONCENTRATED SEVERE NEAR/NORTH OF THE WARM FRONT
    ACROSS KS/NEB INTO MO DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS.

    ...TN/OH VALLEY TO SRN NY...

    WEAK SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL EJECT EWD ACROSS THE OH VALLEY DURING THE
    DAY WITH AN 18Z POSITION FROM CNTRL OH...SWD INTO ERN TN. THIS
    FEATURE...COMBINED WITH DIURNAL HEATING ALONG A ZONE OF LOW LEVEL
    CONFLUENCE...SHOULD INDUCE STRONG TO POTENTIALLY SEVERE THUNDERSTORM
    DEVELOPMENT. FORECAST SHEAR PROFILES SUGGEST THE VAST MAJORITY OF
    UPDRAFTS SHOULD BE MULTI-CELLULAR IN NATURE BUT CERTAINLY CAPABLE OF
    PRODUCING GUSTY WINDS AND HAIL.

    ..DARROW.. 05/23/2011
    The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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    • #92
      Classic setup appears to be coming together..

      Extreme instability combined with a dynamic shortwave right at peak heating..

      This will definitely need to be monitored closely.
      Deuces Valley.
      ... No really, deuces.
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      • #93
        I'm somewhat shocked at the little attention the local media has given this, I believe at 6 o'clock Merril showed the outlook but just said a "chance for severe".

        This has the potential to be an abnormally severe day tomorrow, though there are still some uncertainties I believe that people need to know to take things with extreme caution here tomorrow.
        I think that, though rather unfortunately, because of the situation in Joplin that people will take things more seriously at least for a little while, but am concerned that Kansans might become complacent.

        Someone mentioned somewhere that people in Joplin continued to practice golf on the driving range even after the tornado sirens went off.
        The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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        • #94
          Talked to a pro met that said that this could make 5/10/10 (last years outbreak) look like a cake walk.

          However I'm not quite sold on that yet, tomorrow will have much higher instability but shear doesn't look to be as "insane and off the charts" as ICT NWS put it last year.
          The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by wsushox1
            Talked to a pro met that said that this could make 5/10/10 (last years outbreak) look like a cake walk.

            However I'm not quite sold on that yet, tomorrow will have much higher instability but shear doesn't look to be as "insane and off the charts" as ICT NWS put it last year.
            I'm not sold either. It doesn't seem synched just right. I don't think they are going to have a real good handle until tomorrow.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by SB Shock
              Originally posted by wsushox1
              Talked to a pro met that said that this could make 5/10/10 (last years outbreak) look like a cake walk.

              However I'm not quite sold on that yet, tomorrow will have much higher instability but shear doesn't look to be as "insane and off the charts" as ICT NWS put it last year.
              I'm not sold either. It doesn't seem synched just right. I don't think they are going to have a real good handle until tomorrow.
              As often is the problem with closed lows the winds will start to try to wrap around the low making for unfavorable shear vectors for tornadoes.....will have to watch this tomorrow.
              The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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              • #97
                It was inevitable



                Does include Wichita, El Dorado, OKC, Tulsa, Enid.
                The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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                • #98
                  Reed was calling for a possible "historic outbreak" for Central OK to Central KS today. I know I'll be keeping a close eye on the weather today.
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                  • #99
                    Gravity Wave in the visible Satelite moving west to east across Kansas?

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                    • Yes, appears so. An OFB like taht can make it extremely obvious where storms will form and eliminate an entire risk area too.
                      The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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                      • Originally posted by wsushox1
                        I'm somewhat shocked at the little attention the local media has given this, I believe at 6 o'clock Merril showed the outlook but just said a "chance for severe".

                        This has the potential to be an abnormally severe day tomorrow, though there are still some uncertainties I believe that people need to know to take things with extreme caution here tomorrow.
                        I think that, though rather unfortunately, because of the situation in Joplin that people will take things more seriously at least for a little while, but am concerned that Kansans might become complacent.

                        Someone mentioned somewhere that people in Joplin continued to practice golf on the driving range even after the tornado sirens went off.
                        My guess is they are downplaying it publicly because we had a few events this year that turned out to be nothing. So they are probably taking a little bit more muted approach to this one. They don't want the Dave Freeman scare factor.

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                        • For those like me who don't understand everything (sadly) and how it goes down or sets up or whatever, there's a piece on weather.com that kind of explains todays setup and how it all works. I'm guessing it's a decent dummy's guide to severe weather anyway. Classic Plains Tornado Outbreak Ingredients
                          Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
                          RIP Guy Always A Shocker
                          Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
                          ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
                          Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
                          Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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                          • nm
                            The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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                            • Originally posted by SubGod22
                              For those like me who don't understand everything (sadly) and how it goes down or sets up or whatever, there's a piece on weather.com that kind of explains todays setup and how it all works. I'm guessing it's a decent dummy's guide to severe weather anyway. Classic Plains Tornado Outbreak Ingredients
                              Nice link! Thanks for sharing.
                              Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                              • SPC comes out with 45% tornado Probabilities for OK and extreme Southern KS, which is only the 3rd time ever.
                                The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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