Coy visiting Monday

[WuDrWu]

I have a hard time thinking that anyone would want to play here right now watching this team.

[rrshock]

I have a hard time thinking that anyone would want to play here right now watching this team.

I completely agree.

[SpanglerFan316]

I have a hard time thinking that anyone would want to play here right now watching this team.

Imagine playing with Garrett Stutz as center, Toure' Murry as SG, Clevin Hannah or KM as PG, etc. In a few years, this could be a really good team.

[mulligan]

I have a hard time thinking that anyone would want to play here right now watching this team.

Imagine playing with Garrett Stutz as center, Toure' Murry as SG, Clevin Hannah or KM as PG, etc. In a few years, this could be a really good team.

After next year Hannah will be gone. If this takes a few years Heaven help the Shocks.

[SpanglerFan316]

I have a hard time thinking that anyone would want to play here right now watching this team.

Imagine playing with Garrett Stutz as center, Toure' Murry as SG, Clevin Hannah or KM as PG, etc. In a few years, this could be a really good team.

After next year Hannah will be gone. If this takes a few years Heaven help the Shocks.

In 2010-11, we could have
Center: GS (jr) & EO (so)
Power Forward: Jerome Hamilton (so), Gabe Blair (sr)
Small Forward: Johnny Coy (so)
Shooting Guard: Toure' Murry (jr), Graham Hatch (sr)
Point Guard: Kenny Manigault (so), Reggie Chamberlain (sr)
In addition, some of our current players could improve a lot. JT? AE? DK?

[forevershockerfan]

Good points SpanglerFan316. My fingers are crossed that we do get Johnny Coy and the Season you speak of will be one to remember for Shocker basketball.

[WuDrWu]

http://www.kansas.com/sports/shockers/story/651034.html

Dickie is the guy that was so nice to give his input several times earlier in this thread.


If a coach being a family man is important, then Gregg has and will make a big statement. As stated many times, the important thing is for Johnny to make the best decision for himself and his family. Then everything else will fall into place.

:wsu_posters: :goshocks: :posterwu: :posterwsu:

[newshock1234]

http://www.kansas.com/sports/shockers/story/651034.html


Dickie is the guy that was so nice to give his input several times earlier in this thread.


If a coach being a family man is important, then Gregg has and will make a big statement. As stated many times, the important thing is for Johnny to make the best decision for himself and his family. Then everything else will fall into place.

:wsu_posters: :goshocks: :posterwu: :posterwsu:

after reading that, i get the feeling that we are slighty favored over Drake.

[jocoshock]

http://www.kansas.com/sports/shockers/story/651034.html


Dickie is the guy that was so nice to give his input several times earlier in this thread.


If a coach being a family man is important, then Gregg has and will make a big statement. As stated many times, the important thing is for Johnny to make the best decision for himself and his family. Then everything else will fall into place.

:wsu_posters: :goshocks: :posterwu: :posterwsu:

after reading that, i get the feeling that we are slighty favored over Drake.

I would interpret it differently. The relationship he already has with the Drake coach would give them the slight edge.

But I still think we have an excellent chance.




:goshocks:

[SpanglerFan316]

Actually, I think this is more a test of Coy's judgment than anything else. I think he has a good chance of being picked in the MLB draft again even if he doesn't play baseball for three years. However he'll be drafted lower, be rusty and have less margin for error if he goes to Drake instead of WSU.

The judgment issue is the following: Does he go with the "easy" choice of Drake, where he gets along well with the coach and fits right into Bucky Cox's spot, or the "tough" choice of WSU, where the basketball team is doing poorly and Gregg and Gene are going to push him to improve? The "tough" choice probably results in better career options and more improvement over the course of his stay in college. The "easy" choice is easier.

[AndShock]

Actually, I think this is more a test of Coy's judgment than anything else. I think he has a good chance of being picked in the MLB draft again even if he doesn't play baseball for three years. However he'll be drafted lower, be rusty and have less margin for error if he goes to Drake instead of WSU.

I thought he made a "deal" with the Phillies that he could play for them after graduating college, or did that only apply to if he attended Arizona State?

[SpanglerFan316]

Good question. (I don't know the answer but I think it disappeared when he didn't sign.)

Summer ball is not the same as D1 baseball on a Top 10 or Top 20 team. ASU would have worked out great for him and WSU would work out great too. With respect to baseball, I don't think Drake is a good choice. He'll get a shot at baseball no matter what; however, the higher you're drafted, the longer they will keep you around to prove yourself.


ADED: I may have misunderstood your question. I thought I read that he could still play basketball if he signed with the Phillies. I don't know if there was an informal "deal."

[Aargh]

As I recall, the Philies were going to let him go to college and play basketball. He had to play baseball only when college wasn't in session.

Coy was offered 3rd round money and that deal and turned it down. I can come up with several reasons for turning it down. It minimizes his chances of progressing in either sport and it leaves absolutely no time for family.

Coy's summers have to be a factor no matter what school he chooses. His summer choices are a) Save some time for his family. b) Play summer ball. c) Basketball conditioning on campus.

Tough choices.