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  • Update on Wamukota's last couple of games

    Vs Trinity Valley 6pts and no other stats but no stats were listed for any Kilgore player
    Vs Panola College 10 pts 6 rebounds and 2 blocks.
    Vs Paris JC 11 pts 6 rebounds, 2 blocks and the all important 2 of 2 from the line.

    A red flag is that he tends to get into foul trouble but other than that I think he has as high a ceiling as any player we have signed.

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    • Wamukota's last game was not an offensive explosion with 2 points on 1 of 4 shooting with no free throw attempts. However he did clean the glass to the tune of 15 rebounds, 9 defensive and 6 offensive.

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      • Originally posted by The Cat View Post
        Wamukota's last game was not an offensive explosion with 2 points on 1 of 4 shooting with no free throw attempts. However he did clean the glass to the tune of 15 rebounds, 9 defensive and 6 offensive.
        I'd be happy if he could average around 8ppg, 10-15rpg, and 1-2 Blk

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        • Originally posted by RampageWSU View Post
          I'd be happy if he could average around 8ppg, 10-15rpg, and 1-2 Blk
          that would make him all-conference

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          • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
            that would make him all-conference
            It would also make us a title contender again in 2015.
            Livin the dream

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            • Originally posted by RampageWSU View Post
              I'd be happy if he could average around 8ppg, 10-15rpg, and 1-2 Blk
              You'd be happy? I'd be ecstatic.

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              • I'd gladly take 4-5 points, 7-8 boards and 1.5-3 blocks from B-Wam next year, assuming he can give us 20+ minutes.

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                • Honestly, if we can get a close approximation to Orukpe's defense and a net neutral offense I'd be very pleased. I don't need him to score a bunch of points, I'm more concerned with whether or not he can catch the ball and convert easy shots. If he can do that, and defend at a high level than he'll meet all my expectations.

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                  • Originally posted by ShockerHoops View Post
                    Bush looks like a Bust to me. Anybody else agree?
                    Has Marshall ever whiffed on a recruit to WSU? Not a rhetorical question. I haven't had the chance to really follow the team for the first four years of his tenure so I really don't know the answer to that question. But of the recruits he's brought in the past three or four years, I'm not aware of any player on the team that hasn't brought value in some way or fashion.

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                    • Originally posted by Bluzrover View Post
                      Has Marshall ever whiffed on a recruit to WSU? Not a rhetorical question. I haven't had the chance to really follow the team for the first four years of his tenure so I really don't know the answer to that question. But of the recruits he's brought in the past three or four years, I'm not aware of any player on the team that hasn't brought value in some way or fashion.
                      Every coach misses on some. Marshall "missed" on Manigault, Hamilton, Richardson.
                      You miss 100% of the shots you don't take....

                      .....but, statistically speaking, you miss 99% of the shots you do take.

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                      • Steele is right. Marshall has missed on some players, too, although the longer he stays and the better established his program and track record become, the more successful his recruiting seems to be.

                        The key with Marshall is that when he does miss, he upgrades quickly and successfully. His predecessor wasn't so good at that. When MT missed or finished second a few times and had to take Plan B players, WSU's talent level gradually began to deteriorate, and he probably escaped just in time to save his reputation from taking a hit. By contrast, when Marshall took some risks, especially early on, and ended up with no production from guys like Manigault, Hamilton, and Richardson, he didn't accept that at the price of recruiting "at this level" -- Marshall doesn't accept the idea that he's at any level below where he needs to be to compete for a national championship. Instead, he simply recruited better players to replace them and continue improving the program.

                        Marshall's last four teams, starting with the NIT champs, have rewritten the school record book in terms of victories, achievements, starts to the season, and winning streaks. Each has been better than the last, with the current team being the best of the bunch (although who knows how things will come out in the end -- improving on a Final Four is a high bar to clear). That's partly because of the MTXE and basketball IQ of guys like FVV, Early, Baker, and Cotton, who are smart, coachable, competitive, and tough. But it's also partly because of their talent, which WSU appreciated before others did and thus was able to recruit.

                        So on those increasingly rare occasions where Marshall strikes out swinging -- and they still happen occasionally, as we saw with Teddy Hawkins -- he doesn't get down about it; he just steps up the next time, swings hard, and whacks a double off the wall, or puts one in the cheap seats.

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                        • Originally posted by Steeleshocker View Post
                          Every coach misses on some. Marshall "missed" on Manigault, Hamilton, Richardson.
                          ... AJ Hawkins, James Anacreon, Ede Egharevba, and even Jake White (although I think Jake wanted to move on more than the staff wanted him to).

                          The point is made by Bluzrover, when it's determined that these players are not going to move the program forward, they are found a better fit quickly.
                          "Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should accomplish with your ability."
                          -John Wooden

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                          • Originally posted by Steeleshocker View Post
                            Every coach misses on some. Marshall "missed" on Manigault, Hamilton, Richardson.
                            Originally posted by wu_shizzle View Post
                            ... AJ Hawkins, James Anacreon, Ede Egharevba, and even Jake White (although I think Jake wanted to move on more than the staff wanted him to).

                            The point is made by Bluzrover, when it's determined that these players are not going to move the program forward, they are found a better fit quickly.
                            I don't believe one can put Hawkins or White (maybe even Chamberlain) in the category of misses, particularly when compared to the others mentioned.

                            Those others were pretty much fails, where Jake, AJ, and Reggie were good roll players that were or could get pushed back further on the bench due to higher levels of recruiting being achieved. I believe all did or will have success at other programs, including D-I programs, which @wu_shizzle: makes reference to. I'm not sure that would be true of the other players, although I have not looked them up.
                            Last edited by ShockTalk; February 3, 2014, 07:15 PM.

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                            • The biggest success Marshall has had is depth. A swing and a miss means that he has 10 guys he can go to instead of 11. Many Valley teams find that the drop off in talent from the starter to the ONLY other player capable of playing the same position is so great, that many games are lost due to injury or foul trouble. That has not been the case for Marshall. Others that have generally deep rosters are Jacobson, Lansing, and what's his name at MSU.
                              Livin the dream

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                              • Originally posted by wufan View Post
                                The biggest success Marshall has had is depth. A swing and a miss means that he has 10 guys he can go to instead of 11. Many Valley teams find that the drop off in talent from the starter to the ONLY other player capable of playing the same position is so great, that many games are lost due to injury or foul trouble. That has not been the case for Marshall. Others that have generally deep rosters are Jacobson, Lansing, and what's his name at MSU.
                                whiney b*tch?
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                                Who else posts fake **** all day in order to maintain the acrimony? Wingnuts, that's who.

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