RayQuawndis Mitchell 6'5 G UMKC Transfer

[Shoxing Me Softly]

Pssst…..please. Kid can’t shoot but takes a lot of shots, no thanks.

[Stickboy46]

Pssst…..please. Kid can’t shoot but takes a lot of shots, no thanks.

We missed out on all the good players. We are gonna be scraping the bottom of the barrel here soon.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

We missed out on all the good players. We are gonna be scraping the bottom of the barrel here soon.

Lol!!

[Stickboy46]

Lol!!

Would you like to correct me? I do believe someone else posted that 97 of the Top 100 transfers have already committed elsewhere. The portal closes next week for immediate eligibility. So the players we can expect to be able to pick from should all be known within the week. Anyone else will need a waiver (which is unlikely). So we are either landing Freshman (isn't a bad thing but don't expect immediate impact from freshman) or lower end transfer.

[ShockerExpress]

Would you like to correct me? I do believe someone else posted that 97 of the Top 100 transfers have already committed elsewhere. The portal closes next week for immediate eligibility. So the players we can expect to be able to pick from should all be known within the week. Anyone else will need a waiver (which is unlikely). So we are either landing Freshman (isn't a bad thing but don't expect immediate impact from freshman) or lower end transfer.

“Every transfer outside of the top 100 transfers is a “lower-end” transfer” is the perfect cherry on top of your takes over the past month.

[Stickboy46]

“Every transfer outside of the top 100 transfers is a “lower-end” transfer” is the perfect cherry on top of your takes over the past month.

So far my takes have been spot on. So yea.. I'll take that as a compliment.

[ShockerExpress]

So far my takes have been spot on. So yea.. I'll take that as a compliment.

Quite the opposite!!!!

[Stickboy46]

Quite the opposite!!!!

Ah yes... Look at all these great amazing recruits we've signed since you been on a crusade to respond to my every post when I say the recruiting isn't going well .... Wait ...what's that ... You mean since then we've only signed a 3ppg kid from OU, an unknown PG from Africa who had no known other offers and a kid from Mizzou who saw his minutes plummet as a Junior (before getting injured) while averaging 2 ppg and will need a waiver that is unlikely to come to play at all next year.

Sure looks like my take is pretty spot on unless you have your head buried in the sand.

[ShockerExpress]

Ah yes... Look at all these great amazing recruits we've signed since you been on a crusade to respond to my every post when I say the recruiting isn't going well .... Wait ...what's that ... You mean since then we've only signed a 3ppg kid from OU, an unknown PG from Africa who had no known other offers and a kid from Mizzou who saw his minutes plummet as a Junior (before getting injured) while averaging 2 ppg and will need a waiver that is unlikely to come to play at all next year.

Sure looks my take is pretty spot on unless you have your head buried in the sand.

Our class is already better than last years, and we hadn’t signed Walton or Pierre at this date a year ago.

Certainly not jumping for joy at the class so far. But certainly eons away from where you are.

But you’re delusional.

[ShockerExpress]

So far my takes have been spot on. So yea.. I'll take that as a compliment.

I also like how you almost always ignore specifics when you’re called on your nonsense.

Please explain how every transfer outside of the top 100 players in the country is “lower end”.

That’s what I disagreed with in the beginning.

That is a poor take.

[Stickboy46]

I also like how you almost always ignore specifics when you’re called on your nonsense.

Please explain how every transfer outside of the top 100 players in the country is “lower end”.

That’s what I disagreed with in the beginning.

That is a poor take.

Depends on how you define high and low end. To me, high end is Top 100 ish maybe Top 150. Anything past that is lower end. The vast majority of kids in the transfer portal aren't going to be impact players so the low end starts really high up. I have expectations that WSU should be shooting for a Top 10ish% team in D1. So Top 35-50. As the same, we should be shooting for top 10% transfers, so with 1400 kids in the portal we should be landing Top 140 kids to help get there. In the past ,with a magician for a coach, we were able to exceed our talent level (or perceived talent level) ... But it's sure hell of a lot easier to do it with the right talent. HCPM is gonna have to prove he's a magician too if he continues to recruit this poorly.

[Stickboy46]

Our class is already better than last years, and we hadn’t signed Walton or Pierre at this date a year ago.

Certainly not jumping for joy at the class so far. But certainly eons away from where you are.

But you’re delusional.

Wait. Our class is better than last year's ??? By what metric ? Your eye test ???

[ShockerExpress]

Wait. Our class is better than last year's ??? By what metric ? Your eye test ???

247 has our portal class at 64 this year. It was like 90th last year. Didn’t look it up. But wasn’t close to 60s.

I’ll also repeat: Had not signed Walton or Pierre at this time last year.

But we scraped them off the bottom of the barrel in mid May.

[Stickboy46]

247 has our portal class at 64 this year. It was like 90th last year. Didn’t look it up. But wasn’t close to 60s.

I’ll also repeat: Had not signed Walton or Pierre at this time last year.

But we scraped them off the bottom of the barrel in mid May.

1. We got a commitment from Pierre in April
https://thesunflower.com/63321/sport...wsu-this-week/

Walton committed on May 12th. So basically this week. He was the 2nd to last player. The last was Shammah Scott signed in late July ...

2. You bought into the "pts" ranking. Gotcha .. that makes sense why you are disconnected from reality. You get extra points for sheer volume of bodies which is why we have so many points .. yet our "average ranking" is way lower than other teams in the 60s range. and last year they only included 3 of our players since they don't always update their rankings. Pierre never got updated off a 0 so he didn't count in the average. Okafor wasn't listed anywhere. Walton didn't count because he was JUCO, even though he was listed as the No 1 JUCO player at one point. Colby Rogers also wasn't included in the 2022 rankings for some reason. It only counted Ballard, Rojas and Bell. For this year, it's still giving points based on Beverlys 2019 HS ranking (.97) .. which is completely irrelevant after 4 years of college.

Another key comparison is looking at who we beat out for these recruits

Last Year:
Walton: LSU, K-State
Pierre: Miss State, Tulane, Murray State
Ballard: Syracuse
Rogers: Cal, Temple
Okafor: Miss State, Georgetown
Rojas: None listed
Bell: Never listed offers, but known listed contacts of Miss State, Tulsa, GCU, Clemson, Tulane
Scott: Cleveland St, Weber State, North Texas, Akron

So the vast majority of those we beat out were AAC or higher teams (outside of Scott who was the last really late add).

This year:
Germany: Vanderbilt
Joy: No other known offers
Beverly: No other known offers (but was likely poached before offers could come in)
Cortes: No other known offers

So either we landed the quietest, most secretive team in the world, or we are only landing players with no other good options (gonna throw the caveat that Beverly would have had more offers if he was in the portal more than 3 minutes)

You have to make a SUPER stretch to say the recruits we have landed this year look better than the recruits we landed last year. and all of them were landed this week or earlier last year.

[ShockerExpress]

1. We got a commitment from Pierre in April

https://thesunflower.com/63321/sports/jarron-pierre-jr-becomes-third-player-to-commit-to-wsu-this-week/

Walton committed on May 12th. So basically this week. He was the 2nd to last player. The last was Shammah Scott signed in late July ...

2. You bought into the "pts" ranking. Gotcha .. that makes sense why you are disconnected from reality. You get extra points for sheer volume of bodies which is why we have so many points .. yet our "average ranking" is way lower than other teams in the 60s range. and last year they only included 3 of our players since they don't always update their rankings. Pierre never got updated off a 0 so he didn't count in the average. Okafor wasn't listed anywhere. Walton didn't count because he was JUCO, even though he was listed as the No 1 JUCO player at one point. Colby Rogers also wasn't included in the 2022 rankings for some reason. It only counted Ballard, Rojas and Bell.

Another key comparison is looking at who we beat out for these recruits

Last Year:
Walton: LSU, K-State
Pierre: Miss State, Tulane, Murray State
Ballard: Syracuse
Rogers: Cal, Temple
Okafor: Miss State, Georgetown
Rojas: None listed
Bell: Never listed offers, but known listed contacts of Miss State, Tulsa, GCU, Clemson, Tulane
Scott: Cleveland St, Weber State, North Texas, Akron

So the vast majority of those we beat out were AAC or higher teams (outside of Scott who was the last really late add).

This year:
Germany: Vanderbilt
Joy: No other known offers
Beverly: No other known offers (but was likely poached before offers could come in)
Cortes: No other known offers

So either we landed the quietest, most secretive team in the world, or we are only landing players with no other good options (gonna throw the caveat that Beverly would have had more offers if he was in the portal more than 3 minutes)

You have to make a SUPER stretch to say the recruits we have landed this year look better than the recruits we landed last year. and all of them were landed this week or earlier last year.

If by “super stretch” you mean “rankings from 247.com.” Sure.

Also our average rating from 247… higher this year than last, too. So not really sure what your point is there?

You don’t know who else offered who we signed because clearly information is being shared differently with this regime than the last, but I too would be interested in that.

Fair enough about Pierre. Thought he was about this time.