Fred VanVleet is a Shocker!!

[150946shox]

18.5 pts. 7.5 assists (wow!), 5 boards, and 5 steals as a Jr. For a 5'11" PG who's main criticism seems to be that he's "not that quick", but is a "true point guard".

That's a lot of points for a "true point guard", but 7.5 assists says he is that. 5 boards for a 5'11" guy is good even if he was playing 3A in KS. 5 steals for a guy who's "not that quick" is insane.

The best possibility that explains all that is that Van Vleet has incredible basketball IQ. He's racking up those stats in Chicago. He's playing a lot of future D1 players every time he's on the court.

Van Vleet has the credentials to become Marshall's best recruit so far. Everything I've seen indicates a Hannah-like player with Hatch's basketball IQ. Maybe not the shooter that Hannah was because I haven't seen 3-pt. stats. I'm assuming Van Vleet's points are coming closer to the hoop, which may not work in D1.

This is probably the most excited I've been about a player since Randy got Maurice Evans. I am really pumped. :clap: :good: :yahoo:

Rockford is actually about 90 miles from Chicago. I don't know a lot about Illinois basketball, but would he really be racking up the stats in Chicago? From a look at the league, there are no Chicago teams. I'm sure he has played some against Chicago kids, but probably not routinely.

[ShockRef]

This is a big time 'get'.
To have a 1st rate PG for the next 4 years is a major shot in the arm to the program and relief for the coaching staff.

I heard about the Walker deal on Saturday and was a bit disappointed, but this addition MORE than makes up for it.

If you compare having a top rated PG for 4 years vs a 1 year decent post player, the sting of missing out on Walker fades away rather quickly. 8)

[wufan]

18.5 pts. 7.5 assists (wow!), 5 boards, and 5 steals as a Jr. For a 5'11" PG who's main criticism seems to be that he's "not that quick", but is a "true point guard".

That's a lot of points for a "true point guard", but 7.5 assists says he is that. 5 boards for a 5'11" guy is good even if he was playing 3A in KS. 5 steals for a guy who's "not that quick" is insane.

The best possibility that explains all that is that Van Vleet has incredible basketball IQ. He's racking up those stats in Chicago. He's playing a lot of future D1 players every time he's on the court.

Van Vleet has the credentials to become Marshall's best recruit so far. Everything I've seen indicates a Hannah-like player with Hatch's basketball IQ. Maybe not the shooter that Hannah was because I haven't seen 3-pt. stats. I'm assuming Van Vleet's points are coming closer to the hoop, which may not work in D1.

I did read that he is "not consistent" in his three-point shot, but the same evaluator also stated that you wouldn't have known it by watching his play in whatever AAU tournament he was in. I'm guessing a 30% 3 point shooter with Jake Odum (In St PG?) like skills??? Either way, The 2nd or 3rd best player in Illinois is a GREAT get!

[150946shox]

18.5 pts. 7.5 assists (wow!), 5 boards, and 5 steals as a Jr. For a 5'11" PG who's main criticism seems to be that he's "not that quick", but is a "true point guard".

That's a lot of points for a "true point guard", but 7.5 assists says he is that. 5 boards for a 5'11" guy is good even if he was playing 3A in KS. 5 steals for a guy who's "not that quick" is insane.

The best possibility that explains all that is that Van Vleet has incredible basketball IQ. He's racking up those stats in Chicago. He's playing a lot of future D1 players every time he's on the court.

Van Vleet has the credentials to become Marshall's best recruit so far. Everything I've seen indicates a Hannah-like player with Hatch's basketball IQ. Maybe not the shooter that Hannah was because I haven't seen 3-pt. stats. I'm assuming Van Vleet's points are coming closer to the hoop, which may not work in D1.

I did read that he is "not consistent" in his three-point shot, but the same evaluator also stated that you wouldn't have known it by watching his play in whatever AAU tournament he was in. I'm guessing a 30% 3 point shooter with Jake Odum (In St PG?) like skills??? Either way, The 2nd or 3rd best player in Illinois is a GREAT get!

He shot 50% from the 2 and 35% from the 3 last year. 46% overall. 77% from the line.

[wufan]

18.5 pts. 7.5 assists (wow!), 5 boards, and 5 steals as a Jr. For a 5'11" PG who's main criticism seems to be that he's "not that quick", but is a "true point guard".

That's a lot of points for a "true point guard", but 7.5 assists says he is that. 5 boards for a 5'11" guy is good even if he was playing 3A in KS. 5 steals for a guy who's "not that quick" is insane.

The best possibility that explains all that is that Van Vleet has incredible basketball IQ. He's racking up those stats in Chicago. He's playing a lot of future D1 players every time he's on the court.

Van Vleet has the credentials to become Marshall's best recruit so far. Everything I've seen indicates a Hannah-like player with Hatch's basketball IQ. Maybe not the shooter that Hannah was because I haven't seen 3-pt. stats. I'm assuming Van Vleet's points are coming closer to the hoop, which may not work in D1.

I did read that he is "not consistent" in his three-point shot, but the same evaluator also stated that you wouldn't have known it by watching his play in whatever AAU tournament he was in. I'm guessing a 30% 3 point shooter with Jake Odum (In St PG?) like skills??? Either way, The 2nd or 3rd best player in Illinois is a GREAT get!

He shot 50% from the 2 and 35% from the 3 last year. 46% overall. 77% from the line.

I'll take that from a "true PG."

[Wuzee]

FVV is No. 23 in white -- on his way to 37 points 12 assists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-TUPHfUnkA

[wufan]

He's also wearing red shoes (helped me keep track). The poise and court sense was readily apparent in that mix-tape. It didn't show any defensive plays really, and FVV did not show any "blow-by explosiveness" but he does look like a winner!

[jocoshock]

Nothing in that video not to like.

He can penetrate all the way to the hole, stop and pop inside the arc, hit the 3's and the FTs....

Another good PG get - and this time a 4 year recruit to boot!


:clap: :clap:

[Ed Harley]

From the video, he just plain looks like a point guard.

A real life, start 4 straight years and win 100+ games for his career type PG.


One never gets to see D on these videos and that's a pretty big question mark; however, he did have some nice positioning/anticipation steals on the video and he displayed a great feel for the flow of the game.

[Ricardo del Rio]

No Derrick Rose, ankle breaking quickness, but if he had it, we probably would not have gotten him.

He is going to be fun to watch.

[SubGod22]

I like it. So this is the first official verbal we've received. If Henry has as well then we're off to a great start. A couple more big men (Ellis, Thurman) and it will be a fine class. Definitely need at least one more big.

I'm a happy Shocker fan today.

[ShockCounselor]

I'm typically conservative in my assessement of freshman but I'm impressed with this kid. Clearly a very mature BB IQ. While he doesn't appear exceptionally quick, I think some of that is a reflection of his control. He never rushes or is out of control. He is always purposeful with the dribble. Besides ... give Kerry a year to develop his twitch muscles and I would wager by the time he is into his sophmore year the thought of him not being quick will dissappear. Van Vleet looks like a really excellent pick up for the program.

[wufan]

I like it. So this is the first official verbal we've received. If Henry has as well then we're off to a great start. A couple more big men (Ellis, Thurman) and it will be a fine class. Definitely need at least one more big.

I'm a happy Shocker fan today.

+1 for Thurman and Ellis to fill out the class. There was also some mention of Aaron Durley giving a soft verbal last spring.

[Wuzee]

I'm typically conservative in my assessement of freshman but I'm impressed with this kid. Clearly a very mature BB IQ. While he doesn't appear exceptionally quick, I think some of that is a reflection of his control. He never rushes or is out of control. He is always purposeful with the dribble. Besides ... give Kerry a year to develop his twitch muscles and I would wager by the time he is into his sophmore year the thought of him not being quick will dissappear. Van Vleet looks like a really excellent pick up for the program.

There are guys (Adrian Griffin leaps immediately to mind) who look like they're gliding instead of running. The usual outward signs of physical effort -- elbows and knees churning, tension in the shoulders and neck -- aren't readily visible, but they still go by people and you're sitting there wondering how they did it.

Judging from this one video, FVV looks like that type of player. Blur your vision and you'll notice him easily getting separation from guys when necessary. But he also knows when to slow down and let passing lanes develop both on the break and in the half court, which is a good measure of his saavy.

[Snapshot9]

He seems to have a real good BB IQ and court vision, knows when to drive or to dish off. Has a real good FT stroke. This is a real good get for us, and we got him for 4 years.