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At least not this year.
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You really know your stuff. Full Court Press huh? Yep, because putting on a full court press has never lead to quick uncontested basket.Originally posted by SHOXMVC“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
-Sun Tzu, The Art of WarComment
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I know enough that going 94 feet with 94 feet of obstacles takes more time to negotiate than going 94 feet with only 47 feet of obstacles. Any more dumb questions?Originally posted by kochHeadComment
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Yeah, one more. Which is faster, throwing a ball from point A to point B or running while dribbling from point A to point B?Originally posted by SHOXMVC
Case and point.
Now have you ever seen some one run the length of the court and score in .7 sec? No? Any more dumb questions?“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
-Sun Tzu, The Art of WarComment
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Talk about apples to oranges. You are approaching the Vandy/WSU scenerio as if it would happen automatic that way on a regular basis.Originally posted by kochHeadYeah, one more. Which is faster, throwing a ball from point A to point B or running while dribbling from point A to point B?Originally posted by SHOXMVC
Case and point.
Now have you ever seen some one run the length of the court and score in .7 sec? No? Any more dumb questions?
The better quesiton is:
A. How often do you see a team with just under 5 seconds to go, while under full-court duress, successfully complete the "Hail Mary," as in your example?
VS.
B. A team with a savy, experienced and fast point guard with just under 5 seconds, that encounters zero pressure until mid-court, get fouled while attempting a shot within 8 feet of the basket, with still 0.8 seconds on the clock?
This little excercise is for everyone not just for you coc-head.
My answer is out of 10 times example A might no even happen once, while example B might happen 3 or 4 times. Please discuss.Comment
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Has the SWOMO game from a couple of years ago been mentioned yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sqnaINvaCg
Another example of going the length of the floor with no pressure, of course the guy missed the wide open layup but I think it's somewhat relevant to what is being discussed here.Comment
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I'm assuming that's a vote for B. Your down 1-0 coc-head.Originally posted by AndShockComment
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Originally posted by SHOXMVCTalk about apples to oranges. You are approaching the Vandy/WSU scenerio as if it would happen automatic that way on a regular basis.Originally posted by kochHeadYeah, one more. Which is faster, throwing a ball from point A to point B or running while dribbling from point A to point B?Originally posted by SHOXMVC
Case and point.
Now have you ever seen some one run the length of the court and score in .7 sec? No? Any more dumb questions?
The better quesiton is:
A. How often do you see a team with just under 5 seconds to go, while under full-court duress, successfully complete the "Hail Mary," as in your example?
VS.
B. A team with a savy, experienced and fast point guard with just under 5 seconds, that encounters zero pressure until mid-court, get fouled while attempting a shot within 8 feet of the basket, with still 0.8 seconds on the clock?
This little excercise is for everyone not just for you coc-head.
My answer is out of 10 times example A might no even happen once, while example B might happen 3 or 4 times. Please discuss.Comment
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The point of the video is you can throw a pass and get down the length of the court faster than dribble the length of the court, not that the "Vandy Play" is more likely than the one we saw vs VCU.Originally posted by SHOXMVCTalk about apples to oranges. You are approaching the Vandy/WSU scenerio as if it would happen automatic that way on a regular basis.Originally posted by kochHeadYeah, one more. Which is faster, throwing a ball from point A to point B or running while dribbling from point A to point B?Originally posted by SHOXMVC
Case and point.
Now have you ever seen some one run the length of the court and score in .7 sec? No? Any more dumb questions?
The better quesiton is:
A. How often do you see a team with just under 5 seconds to go, while under full-court duress, successfully complete the "Hail Mary," as in your example?
VS.
B. A team with a savy, experienced and fast point guard with just under 5 seconds, that encounters zero pressure until mid-court, get fouled while attempting a shot within 8 feet of the basket, with still 0.8 seconds on the clock?
This little excercise is for everyone not just for you coc-head.
My answer is out of 10 times example A might no even happen once, while example B might happen 3 or 4 times. Please discuss.
You see with every play there is a risk/reward. Pressing while it may slow down Rodriguez also runs the risk of giving up an uncontested shot if the press is broken. That may have been a risk HCGM was not willing to take. We have seen in the past that HCGM when being pressed at end of games has a "home run play" that works very well (usually when we are up). Most coaches don't press when in the same situation as HCGM because you do not want to find yourself in a postion where your D is our of position.
Hindsight is 20/20 so you have the advantage of saying "it didn't work so we should have done another way". Maybe pressing would have resulted in a more favorable outcome, but everyone got back on D,guarded their man, and the shot was contested and missed. I am not going to blame HCGM.
coc-head? Really? Lol.“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
-Sun Tzu, The Art of WarComment
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You're the one that piped in with an attitude "you really know your stuff," insinuating that applying a full-court press would lead to an uncontested basket all the time.Originally posted by kochHeadThe point of the video is you can throw a pass and get down the length of the court faster than dribble the length of the court, not that the "Vandy Play" is more likely than the one we saw vs VCU.Originally posted by SHOXMVCTalk about apples to oranges. You are approaching the Vandy/WSU scenerio as if it would happen automatic that way on a regular basis.Originally posted by kochHeadYeah, one more. Which is faster, throwing a ball from point A to point B or running while dribbling from point A to point B?Originally posted by SHOXMVC
Case and point.
Now have you ever seen some one run the length of the court and score in .7 sec? No? Any more dumb questions?
The better quesiton is:
A. How often do you see a team with just under 5 seconds to go, while under full-court duress, successfully complete the "Hail Mary," as in your example?
VS.
B. A team with a savy, experienced and fast point guard with just under 5 seconds, that encounters zero pressure until mid-court, get fouled while attempting a shot within 8 feet of the basket, with still 0.8 seconds on the clock?
This little excercise is for everyone not just for you coc-head.
My answer is out of 10 times example A might no even happen once, while example B might happen 3 or 4 times. Please discuss.
You see with every play there is a risk/reward. Pressing while it may slow down Rodriguez also runs the risk of giving up an uncontested shot if the press is broken. That may have been a risk HCGM was not willing to take. We have seen in the past that HCGM when being pressed at end of games has a "home run play" that works very well (usually when we are up). Most coaches don't press when in the same situation as HCGM because you do not want to find yourself in a postion where your D is our of position.
Hindsight is 20/20 so you have the advantage of saying "it didn't work so we should have done another way". Maybe pressing would have resulted in a more favorable outcome, but everyone got back on D,guarded their man, and the shot was contested and missed. I am not going to blame HCGM.
coc-head? Really? Lol.
Then you posed a rediculous question "which is faster, throwing a ball from point A to point B, or running while dribbling from Point A to point B?" Then the real dousy...attaching a youtube of the WSU/Vandy game. How could anyone not buy into that brilliant logic. Oh, I forgot your next Einstein-like question..."now have you ever seen someone run the length of the court and score in .7 sec?"
Now answer my question without all the rhetoric. Do you honestly think the risk of giving up a "homerun" play in a late-game situation is worth letting a savy, quick, fast, experienced guard that has been abusing us all night long get to the basket with very little resistance? How did it work out for us again? Again, without the stonewall verbage, grace me with your great insight.Comment
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Just an example of bad defense. Joe played better D. Its also not smart to risk a foul 94 feet away from the basket.Originally posted by SHOXMVC
In the "Screw in the Lou" game CU also drove the length of the floor and missed. It isn't easy to drive full speed the length of the floor and make it. I have seen more games where the desperation drive and heave fails than not.
Play solid D. Stay in between your man and the basket. Contest the shot. Don't foul. check, check, check, fail.“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
-Sun Tzu, The Art of WarComment
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SHOXMVC - "HCGM, as bad as he butchered not full-court pressing the last 4.5 seconds"Originally posted by SHOXMVCYou're the one that piped in with an attitude "you really know your stuff," insinuating that applying a full-court press would lead to an uncontested basket all the time.Originally posted by kochHeadThe point of the video is you can throw a pass and get down the length of the court faster than dribble the length of the court, not that the "Vandy Play" is more likely than the one we saw vs VCU.Originally posted by SHOXMVCTalk about apples to oranges. You are approaching the Vandy/WSU scenerio as if it would happen automatic that way on a regular basis.Originally posted by kochHeadYeah, one more. Which is faster, throwing a ball from point A to point B or running while dribbling from point A to point B?Originally posted by SHOXMVC
Case and point.
Now have you ever seen some one run the length of the court and score in .7 sec? No? Any more dumb questions?
The better quesiton is:
A. How often do you see a team with just under 5 seconds to go, while under full-court duress, successfully complete the "Hail Mary," as in your example?
VS.
B. A team with a savy, experienced and fast point guard with just under 5 seconds, that encounters zero pressure until mid-court, get fouled while attempting a shot within 8 feet of the basket, with still 0.8 seconds on the clock?
This little excercise is for everyone not just for you coc-head.
My answer is out of 10 times example A might no even happen once, while example B might happen 3 or 4 times. Please discuss.
You see with every play there is a risk/reward. Pressing while it may slow down Rodriguez also runs the risk of giving up an uncontested shot if the press is broken. That may have been a risk HCGM was not willing to take. We have seen in the past that HCGM when being pressed at end of games has a "home run play" that works very well (usually when we are up). Most coaches don't press when in the same situation as HCGM because you do not want to find yourself in a postion where your D is our of position.
Hindsight is 20/20 so you have the advantage of saying "it didn't work so we should have done another way". Maybe pressing would have resulted in a more favorable outcome, but everyone got back on D,guarded their man, and the shot was contested and missed. I am not going to blame HCGM.
coc-head? Really? Lol.
Then you posed a rediculous question "which is faster, throwing a ball from point A to point B, or running while dribbling from Point A to point B?" Then the real dousy...attaching a youtube of the WSU/Vandy game. How could anyone not buy into that brilliant logic. Oh, I forgot your next Einstein-like question..."now have you ever seen someone run the length of the court and score in .7 sec?"
Now answer my question without all the rhetoric. Do you honestly think the risk of giving up a "homerun" play in a late-game situation is worth letting a savy, quick, fast, experienced guard that has been abusing us all night long get to the basket with very little resistance? How did it work out for us again? Again, without the stonewall verbage, grace me with your great insight.
You got attitude because you brought the view point that it was HCGM that cost them the game by butchering the last 4.5 sec. Applying a full court press is different than applying pressure. Here is my great insight...you have no great insight. If you think your such a great coach go share your ideas with HCGM.“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
-Sun Tzu, The Art of WarComment
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Bad "D" because the coaching staff chose to let Rodriguez basically go uncontested to the basket.Originally posted by kochHeadComment
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Congratulations...you are now in the fan board club "I have no clue how to back my ridiculous assertion, so I will talk in circles and hope to divert the original premise" category. Next time you think you have something to offer...go take a nap.Originally posted by kochHeadSHOXMVC - "HCGM, as bad as he butchered not full-court pressing the last 4.5 seconds"Originally posted by SHOXMVCYou're the one that piped in with an attitude "you really know your stuff," insinuating that applying a full-court press would lead to an uncontested basket all the time.Originally posted by kochHeadThe point of the video is you can throw a pass and get down the length of the court faster than dribble the length of the court, not that the "Vandy Play" is more likely than the one we saw vs VCU.Originally posted by SHOXMVCTalk about apples to oranges. You are approaching the Vandy/WSU scenerio as if it would happen automatic that way on a regular basis.Originally posted by kochHeadYeah, one more. Which is faster, throwing a ball from point A to point B or running while dribbling from point A to point B?Originally posted by SHOXMVC
Case and point.
Now have you ever seen some one run the length of the court and score in .7 sec? No? Any more dumb questions?
The better quesiton is:
A. How often do you see a team with just under 5 seconds to go, while under full-court duress, successfully complete the "Hail Mary," as in your example?
VS.
B. A team with a savy, experienced and fast point guard with just under 5 seconds, that encounters zero pressure until mid-court, get fouled while attempting a shot within 8 feet of the basket, with still 0.8 seconds on the clock?
This little excercise is for everyone not just for you coc-head.
My answer is out of 10 times example A might no even happen once, while example B might happen 3 or 4 times. Please discuss.
You see with every play there is a risk/reward. Pressing while it may slow down Rodriguez also runs the risk of giving up an uncontested shot if the press is broken. That may have been a risk HCGM was not willing to take. We have seen in the past that HCGM when being pressed at end of games has a "home run play" that works very well (usually when we are up). Most coaches don't press when in the same situation as HCGM because you do not want to find yourself in a postion where your D is our of position.
Hindsight is 20/20 so you have the advantage of saying "it didn't work so we should have done another way". Maybe pressing would have resulted in a more favorable outcome, but everyone got back on D,guarded their man, and the shot was contested and missed. I am not going to blame HCGM.
coc-head? Really? Lol.
Then you posed a rediculous question "which is faster, throwing a ball from point A to point B, or running while dribbling from Point A to point B?" Then the real dousy...attaching a youtube of the WSU/Vandy game. How could anyone not buy into that brilliant logic. Oh, I forgot your next Einstein-like question..."now have you ever seen someone run the length of the court and score in .7 sec?"
Now answer my question without all the rhetoric. Do you honestly think the risk of giving up a "homerun" play in a late-game situation is worth letting a savy, quick, fast, experienced guard that has been abusing us all night long get to the basket with very little resistance? How did it work out for us again? Again, without the stonewall verbage, grace me with your great insight.
You got attitude because you brought the view point that it was HCGM that cost them the game by butchering the last 4.5 sec. Applying a full court press is different than applying pressure. Here is my great insight...you have no great insight. If you think your such a great coach go share your ideas with HCGM.Comment
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