Bracket Busters

[pogo]

I wouldn't worry about getting Vitale. Remember, we got the Friday night game. They'll save Vitale for a Saturday affair. It will likely be second tier guy.

Would doug gottlieb be second or third tier?

[wusphlash]

I wouldn't worry about getting Vitale. Remember, we got the Friday night game. They'll save Vitale for a Saturday affair. It will likely be second tier guy.

Would doug gottlieb be second or third tier?

I'd take Gottlieb or Bardo (again). They seem to understand the Valley and the perils we face.

[KC Shox]

On the Panther's forum..it states that dick vitale is doing thier bracket buster game....anyone know who we get???

Billy Packer and Digger Phelps :lol:

Can we get Jim Nance! :goshocks: 8)

LOL

Seriously though, I'm not looking forward to seeing the UNI game with Dukey Vitale. I mean sure, I guess it's pretty big to get that kind of a "name" in your arena. But don't think for a second he won't spend 98% of the broadcast somehow bringing up Duke, other ACC teams or even KU (especially given the game against UNI in the tourney last year). I'm honestly glad he won't be in Wichita.

Are you serious? Love him or hate him, he would be worth the price of admission. The students and even the gray hairs would be rockin' with DV in the house. IIRC, he called a game at Levitt many moons ago. We want him in the house. He would go on and on about our depth, talent and Koch Arena. We couldn't buy that much marketing (and our marketing department sucks).

Actually, I read somewhere it was subject to change about him being at UNI... hopefully ESPN will pull their heads out and send DV to one of the best atmosphere's in the country.

No he would touch on our depth and athleticism and then tangent off to a 20 minute rant about the ACC, KU or Kentucky. Sorry, just don't like the guy. There are plenty other famous comentators that I would rather have in the house. Heck I would even take Bilas or the General over freakin Vitale. Just my opinion though. Obviously you either love him or hate him.

I love Dickie V. He sticks up for Mids during selection time and I have recalled watching many telecasts where Dickie blasts BCS programs for not scheduling Mids - i.e. Syracuse who rarely leaves the state of NY.

You also have to understand that he is catering to the masses when he goes off on Duke, the ACC or other East Coast BCS programs. Face it, from a national standpoint people are going to be more interested in big-time BCS programs than small mid-major programs in the midwest. It's all about tv and ratings. The heavily populated and basketball saturated east coast programs want and expect to hear ESPN personalities glossing their programs. It's what sells and keeps the Nielson ratings up.

Sure we would all love more national exposure, but until the Shox pull a Gonzaga and start to consistently win and make NCAA tourney appearances we will never get a crumb of the lion's share of national pub.

Mids are like the flavor of the week. Look at Butler this year. They were media darlings the past two to three years and now you barely hear of them. They are not very good this year and since they are a Mid, they have been dropped like a bad habit. Gonzaga is on the verge but they have been successful for the past decade so their fall from fame will take a little more time.

Here's to Dickie coming to the Koch - cheers!

[shockerfan]

On the Panther's forum..it states that dick vitale is doing thier bracket buster game....anyone know who we get???

Billy Packer and Digger Phelps :lol:

Can we get Jim Nance! :goshocks: 8)

LOL

Seriously though, I'm not looking forward to seeing the UNI game with Dukey Vitale. I mean sure, I guess it's pretty big to get that kind of a "name" in your arena. But don't think for a second he won't spend 98% of the broadcast somehow bringing up Duke, other ACC teams or even KU (especially given the game against UNI in the tourney last year). I'm honestly glad he won't be in Wichita.

Are you serious? Love him or hate him, he would be worth the price of admission. The students and even the gray hairs would be rockin' with DV in the house. IIRC, he called a game at Levitt many moons ago. We want him in the house. He would go on and on about our depth, talent and Koch Arena. We couldn't buy that much marketing (and our marketing department sucks).

Actually, I read somewhere it was subject to change about him being at UNI... hopefully ESPN will pull their heads out and send DV to one of the best atmosphere's in the country.

No he would touch on our depth and athleticism and then tangent off to a 20 minute rant about the ACC, KU or Kentucky. Sorry, just don't like the guy. There are plenty other famous comentators that I would rather have in the house. Heck I would even take Bilas or the General over freakin Vitale. Just my opinion though. Obviously you either love him or hate him.

I love Dickie V. He sticks up for Mids during selection time and I have recalled watching many telecasts where Dickie blasts BCS programs for not scheduling Mids - i.e. Syracuse who rarely leaves the state of NY.

You also have to understand that he is catering to the masses when he goes off on Duke, the ACC or other East Coast BCS programs. Face it, from a national standpoint people are going to be more interested in big-time BCS programs than small mid-major programs in the midwest. It's all about tv and ratings. The heavily populated and basketball saturated east coast programs want and expect to hear ESPN personalities glossing their programs. It's what sells and keeps the Nielson ratings up.

Sure we would all love more national exposure, but until the Shox pull a Gonzaga and start to consistently win and make NCAA tourney appearances we will never get a crumb of the lion's share of national pub.

Mids are like the flavor of the week. Look at Butler this year. They were media darlings the past two to three years and now you barely hear of them. They are not very good this year and since they are a Mid, they have been dropped like a bad habit. Gonzaga is on the verge but they have been successful for the past decade so their fall from fame will take a little more time.

Here's to Dickie coming to the Koch - cheers!

Yeah I suppose so. I still just get annoyed listening to the guy though.

I do hope we get some decent announcers that at least do a LITTLE homework and get facts right. That is one of my biggest pet peeves when announcers can't get simple stats/names/etc correct. Avoid those kind of lazy commentators and I will be happy enough.

[ShoxFan963]

On the Panther's forum..it states that dick vitale is doing thier bracket buster game....anyone know who we get???

Billy Packer and Digger Phelps :lol:

Can we get Jim Nance! :goshocks: 8)

LOL

Seriously though, I'm not looking forward to seeing the UNI game with Dukey Vitale. I mean sure, I guess it's pretty big to get that kind of a "name" in your arena. But don't think for a second he won't spend 98% of the broadcast somehow bringing up Duke, other ACC teams or even KU (especially given the game against UNI in the tourney last year). I'm honestly glad he won't be in Wichita.

Are you serious? Love him or hate him, he would be worth the price of admission. The students and even the gray hairs would be rockin' with DV in the house. IIRC, he called a game at Levitt many moons ago. We want him in the house. He would go on and on about our depth, talent and Koch Arena. We couldn't buy that much marketing (and our marketing department sucks).

Actually, I read somewhere it was subject to change about him being at UNI... hopefully ESPN will pull their heads out and send DV to one of the best atmosphere's in the country.

No he would touch on our depth and athleticism and then tangent off to a 20 minute rant about the ACC, KU or Kentucky. Sorry, just don't like the guy. There are plenty other famous comentators that I would rather have in the house. Heck I would even take Bilas or the General over freakin Vitale. Just my opinion though. Obviously you either love him or hate him.

I love Dickie V. He sticks up for Mids during selection time and I have recalled watching many telecasts where Dickie blasts BCS programs for not scheduling Mids - i.e. Syracuse who rarely leaves the state of NY.

You also have to understand that he is catering to the masses when he goes off on Duke, the ACC or other East Coast BCS programs. Face it, from a national standpoint people are going to be more interested in big-time BCS programs than small mid-major programs in the midwest. It's all about tv and ratings. The heavily populated and basketball saturated east coast programs want and expect to hear ESPN personalities glossing their programs. It's what sells and keeps the Nielson ratings up.

Sure we would all love more national exposure, but until the Shox pull a Gonzaga and start to consistently win and make NCAA tourney appearances we will never get a crumb of the lion's share of national pub.

Mids are like the flavor of the week. Look at Butler this year. They were media darlings the past two to three years and now you barely hear of them. They are not very good this year and since they are a Mid, they have been dropped like a bad habit. Gonzaga is on the verge but they have been successful for the past decade so their fall from fame will take a little more time.

Here's to Dickie coming to the Koch - cheers!

Yeah I suppose so. I still just get annoyed listening to the guy though.

I do hope we get some decent announcers that at least do a LITTLE homework and get facts right. That is one of my biggest pet peeves when announcers can't get simple stats/names/etc correct. Avoid those kind of lazy commentators and I will be happy enough.

Wait..So you don't like Brad Haertl?! Shocking.

[Snapshot9]

LiveRPI has us as an 8.4 point favorite over VCU.

[kcshocker11]

LiveRPI has us as an 8.4 point favorite over VCU.

Hope there right 8) :posterwu:

[Smooth007]

Can someone post the full MVC bracketbusters game matchups?

[Snapshot9]

Televised games

Virginia Commonwealth at Wichita State ESPN2
Missouri State at Valparaiso
George Mason at Northern Iowa

Non-Televised games

ROAD...............................HOME


Evansville MVC................. Murray State OVC
Morehead State OVC.........Indiana State MVC
Creighton MVC.................Akron MAC
UW-Green Bay Horizon..... Southern Illinois MVC
Illinois State MVC.........Western Michigan MAC
Detroit Horizon.............Drake MVC
Bradley MVC.................Tennessee-Martin OVC

[Smooth007]

Thank you snapshot! I don't know why, but every year I am excited for this event. I guess it is the last chance for the MVC to make an impact as a league. Here are the RPI's, as of 2/16, for the matchups (Taken from CBS Sportsline RPI's).

61 VCU @ WSU 46
47 Missouri St @ Valpraiso 52
22 George Mason @ Northern Iowa 76
122 Evansville @ Murrey State 116
116 Moorehead St. @ Indiana State 115
134 Creighton @ Akron 144
174 UW Greenbay @ Southern Ill. 201
245 Ill. State @ Western Michigan 181
149 Detroit @ Drake 204
239 Bradley @ Tennessee Martin 289

[KC Shox]

KC's Kirkoff point of view;

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/02/17/2664227/kerkhoff-a-bracketbusters-revamp.html

[WSUShokker]

Thank you snapshot! I don't know why, but every year I am excited for this event. I guess it is the last chance for the MVC to make an impact as a league. Here are the RPI's, as of 2/16, for the matchups (Taken from CBS Sportsline RPI's).

61 VCU @ WSU 46
47 Missouri St @ Valpraiso 52
22 George Mason @ Northern Iowa 76
122 Evansville @ Murrey State 116
116 Moorehead St. @ Indiana State 115
134 Creighton @ Akron 144
174 UW Greenbay @ Southern Ill. 201
245 Ill. State @ Western Michigan 181
149 Detroit @ Drake 204
239 Bradley @ Tennessee Martin 289

it would be very interesting to see the rpi #s for the matchups over say the last 4 to 5 years

[WSUShokker]

KC's Kirkoff point of view;

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/02/17...rs-revamp.html

Thanks KC....that kind of sums up some of my feelings on BB..its not all bad but it could be much better

[shox1989]

KC's Kirkoff point of view;

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/02/17...rs-revamp.html

Good Article. That is a Bracket Busters I would love. But I don't see any majors going for it when they get games like tonight that give another low level BCS team an ncaa bid and they don't have to give up anything to get it.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

All this event does is eliminate a mid major from consideration. Hopefully it won't be us.

Subtract this loss and WSU is still in the NIT. This loss alone did not cost WSU an NCAA bid.
Subtract this win and VCU is also in the NIT. This win may have been the tipping point for getting VCU into the Big Dance.

Doesn't sound like an elimination game to me. :D