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  • #61
    Originally posted by BA2929
    Originally posted by ShockTalk
    Originally posted by ripemupshocks
    Originally posted by AndShock
    I'm sure all the Big East teams are just tired from beating each other up. :roll:
    You hit the nail on the head. I'm surprised this excuse hasn't been repeated every five minutes by the idiot talking heads at ESPN.

    Of the thirteen teams from the Big EASY conference to get post season bids, nine have played. Six of those nine lost in the first rounds. And of the six losers, five were the higher seed.

    The word overrated comes to mind. Again and Again.
    I was noticing the same thing, rip. And of the 3 teams that won, UConn beat a "lowly" mid-major by 2 and a #2 seed Villinova had to go overtime to win by 3 in OT over ... another "lowly" mid-major.
    I wouldn't even consider Robert Morris a "mid-major". They're more like a "Really Low Major".
    Good Point. :good:

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    • #62
      Yesterday was the single best day of any tournament for me (of course, the Shocks winning is the exception).
      "If you're going to do it, you're going to do it right," athletic director Jim Schaus said. "If we're going to put 'Wichita State' across our chest, then every team is going to matter."

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      • #63
        Tough loss for #12 New Mexico losing 70-67 to #5 Michigan St. After making a tip shot with 8:35 left in the second half, NM didn't make another FG until :22 left missing 9 shots and going 5-8 FTs.

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        • #64
          tough call on the 'lane violation' at the end.

          Glad GT won.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by ShockTalk
            Tough loss for #12 New Mexico losing 70-67 to #5 Michigan St. After making a tip shot with 8:35 left in the second half, NM didn't make another FG until :22 left missing 9 shots and going 5-8 FTs.
            NMSU got hosed big time. I didn't even see the lane violation, so it couldn't have been that obvious. I'm not sure why you call that, anyways. Then there was no doubt in my mind that .6, at minimum should have been put back on the clock, instead of .3, giving them no chance at a shot.

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            • #66
              Louisville losing to Cal 22-4.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by AndShock
                Originally posted by ShockTalk
                Tough loss for #12 New Mexico losing 70-67 to #5 Michigan St. After making a tip shot with 8:35 left in the second half, NM didn't make another FG until :22 left missing 9 shots and going 5-8 FTs.
                NMSU got hosed big time. I didn't even see the lane violation, so it couldn't have been that obvious. I'm not sure why you call that, anyways. Then there was no doubt in my mind that .6, at minimum should have been put back on the clock, instead of .3, giving them no chance at a shot.
                New Mexico St had several chances earlier to give themselves a little space. You just can't go 8 minutes without a FG in a close game against a quality opponent and expect to win.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by ShockTalk
                  Originally posted by AndShock
                  Originally posted by ShockTalk
                  Tough loss for #12 New Mexico losing 70-67 to #5 Michigan St. After making a tip shot with 8:35 left in the second half, NM didn't make another FG until :22 left missing 9 shots and going 5-8 FTs.
                  NMSU got hosed big time. I didn't even see the lane violation, so it couldn't have been that obvious. I'm not sure why you call that, anyways. Then there was no doubt in my mind that .6, at minimum should have been put back on the clock, instead of .3, giving them no chance at a shot.
                  New Mexico St had several chances earlier to give themselves a little space. You just can't go 8 minutes without a FG in a close game against a quality opponent and expect to win.
                  That doesn't change the fact that the refs screwed up. I can at least understand the lane violation. But I don't get why they didn't take a look at the clock.

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                  • #69
                    The PAC-10 is doing pretty good so far, but in fairness they got a really easy draw- 2 Big East teams. That's as easy as it gets.

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                    • #70
                      NMSU got hosed big time on that lane violation. That call is not made in that situation 99 out of 100 times. It absolutely had a major effect on the outcome of the game.

                      I also did not like the officiating in the Sienna / Purdue game. The refs absolutely let Purdue push/hold/trip etc., etc. without calling fouls. Very had to do anything when you get bounced around like a pinball. Those have been fouls in every other tournament game.

                      I know this is ridiculous to say, but it sure makes one wonder if the refs weren't given some "coaching" last night after all the upsets. We can't have all those BCS teams losing... that would kill the TV ratings, right? Can't have that...

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by ShockTalk
                        Originally posted by AndShock
                        Originally posted by ShockTalk
                        Tough loss for #12 New Mexico losing 70-67 to #5 Michigan St. After making a tip shot with 8:35 left in the second half, NM didn't make another FG until :22 left missing 9 shots and going 5-8 FTs.
                        NMSU got hosed big time. I didn't even see the lane violation, so it couldn't have been that obvious. I'm not sure why you call that, anyways. Then there was no doubt in my mind that .6, at minimum should have been put back on the clock, instead of .3, giving them no chance at a shot.
                        New Mexico St had several chances earlier to give themselves a little space. You just can't go 8 minutes without a FG in a close game against a quality opponent and expect to win.
                        Gee, that sounds like the Shox theme song in everyone of our loses this year.

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                        • #72
                          The lane violation was the correct call upon replay review. It's the rules. Rules don't disappear at one point in the game as opposed to at another time.

                          As for the clock, you can go through the course of the game and every single time a ball goes out of bounds or a whistle is blown, the timekeeper will be about a few tenths off. It's human nature.. and it's human reaction time. It's simply not practical to assume that just because the ball lands out of bounds at the .7 second mark and the whistle is blown to halt play and expect the timekeeper to immediately stop the clock at .7. Human error allows for the few tenths of reaction time leading to the .3 remainder on the clock. Now, if there's some serious error on the clock (especially at the end), then review the hell out of it. However, in this instance, it wasn't that big of a deal.
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                          • #73
                            I caught some conversation about the lane violation on ESPN2. Digger and Dickie V (I despise both of them as commentators) were getting fairly heated over the issue. The argument was rather entertaining!

                            I agree that a rule is a rule regardless of time on the clock. However, I bet if the shoe was on the other foot, the referee would have swallowed his whistle. Maybe I'm seeing the glass as half full, but it certainly came across as trying to give Michigan State a little more breathing room. Gotta protect the BCS teams! Had NMS not gone 8 minutes without a field goal, this probably would not have been an issue. It is a sad, familiar story...
                            “Confrontation simply means meeting the truth head-on.”

                            Mike Krzyzewski

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by ShockerFever
                              As for the clock, you can go through the course of the game and every single time a ball goes out of bounds or a whistle is blown, the timekeeper will be about a few tenths off. It's human nature.. and it's human reaction time. It's simply not practical to assume that just because the ball lands out of bounds at the .7 second mark and the whistle is blown to halt play and expect the timekeeper to immediately stop the clock at .7. Human error allows for the few tenths of reaction time leading to the .3 remainder on the clock. Now, if there's some serious error on the clock (especially at the end), then review the hell out of it. However, in this instance, it wasn't that big of a deal.
                              Being able to get a shot off to tie vs not being able to shoot seems like a pretty big deal to me. It just seems like they review the clock in big situations every single time, except for this one.

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                              • #75
                                Anybody watching Nova vs. St. Mary's?

                                Omar Samhan is great in the post and all he does is simple stuff.

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