Hey Shockers, USU fan here...

[WuDrWu]

I know I would prefer to see a tougher schedule and risk some more losses but you know how coaches feel about any loss. They tend to think in terms of job security. Surely HCGM understands at this time the administration and or fans are not going to be calling for his head if he suffers ooc losses against good competition. The valley race is a different issue of course depending if the valley continues to upgrade its talent. The Shox should play tougher teams to play themselves into the tournament rather than just hope everything aligns and they squeek in. Look at IlSt and their pathetic ooc and sCUm in never advancing in the ncaa.

I understand job security in the coaching world. That's part of the reason they get paid so much. High risk, high reward. I also fully comprehend the desire to improve your own standing, generally based upon wins and losses...BUT.......

Feel free to point out the last coach "promoted" to a BCS school, who was hired based on success in the regular season WITHOUT success in the post season? For instance, has anyone like Jank gotten a bigtime job?


Mark Turgeon does not get the A&M job without the sweet 16 run. Jankovich isn't getting the next level without postseason success. You advance by winning in the dance. And, fwiw, Gregg Marshall is in NO danger, ZERO-NONE, NO danger of not having his contract extended or rolled over to 8-10 years in the foreseeable future at $1million+. The trend is up, nobody thinks we're going to be anything but good in the foreseeable future, the kids are graduating, and the program is clean.

Scheduling for job security at WSU is moot at this moment in time.

[rrshock]

How about Wichita State, Gonzaga, K State and Vanderbilt (for instance) at IBA....maybe just a 2 game feature for tv or a mini tournament.

That would be a fun day at IBA. Well worth the surely high prices that they would charge as well.

I think throw in two good programs along with WSU and KSU and it would make for a good afternoon or evening. The possiblities are really endless.

[ShockerFever]

I totally agree with the OOC scheduling. This year's was a complete joke IMO. It's one of the only things preventing us from a real solid chance at the tourney. I just have this sneaky suspicion if we're on the bubble that the committee will be looking at our solid 300+ non-con SOS and put us out of our misery.

Absolutely, positively NO MORE SWAC TEAMS. I don't wanna see Texas Southern or Alcorn State EVER on the schedule again. Our cupcakes should be on the upper end of the purchasable list.

That 4-team thing at IBA would be awesome and I really don't see how WSU and KSU would ever turn something like that down. Only question would be if we could get 2 quality teams to come into the state for it..

[Smooth007]

I totally agree with the OOC scheduling. This year's was a complete joke IMO. It's one of the only things preventing us from a real solid chance at the tourney. I just have this sneaky suspicion if we're on the bubble that the committee will be looking at our solid 300+ non-con SOS and put us out of our misery.

Absolutely, positively NO MORE SWAC TEAMS. I don't wanna see Texas Southern or Alcorn State EVER on the schedule again. Our cupcakes should be on the upper end of the purchasable list.

That 4-team thing at IBA would be awesome and I really don't see how WSU and KSU would ever turn something like that down. Only question would be if we could get 2 quality teams to come into the state for it..

Let's have the Perry Ellis invitational featuring WSU, KU, KST and UNLV. Winner takes all....

[WuDrWu]

I totally agree with the OOC scheduling. This year's was a complete joke IMO. It's one of the only things preventing us from a real solid chance at the tourney. I just have this sneaky suspicion if we're on the bubble that the committee will be looking at our solid 300+ non-con SOS and put us out of our misery.

Absolutely, positively NO MORE SWAC TEAMS. I don't wanna see Texas Southern or Alcorn State EVER on the schedule again. Our cupcakes should be on the upper end of the purchasable list.

That 4-team thing at IBA would be awesome and I really don't see how WSU and KSU would ever turn something like that down. Only question would be if we could get 2 quality teams to come into the state for it..

Not to really argue this 'Fever, but I don't think it was a complete joke.

Nobody really knows what's going to happen once the season starts...with few exceptions, there is a lot of fluidity.

I don't think you can honestly say that Texas Tech, Iowa, Pitt, Utah State, Cleveland State, UMKC & Texas Christian is anything but a good start to your scheduling. We had 13 games OOC this season. That leaves 6 games. FDU was awful but part of the tourney, and if we would have UIC (I think) instead of Arkansas-MonteCito (which doesn't count) you kind of have to take the bad with the good there.

That leaves 4 games in question or 31% of the schedule. Of those 4 games, you'll get only 1 beef from me. 1 cupcake game is ok. The other 3 have to be better, no doubt, ZERO doubt.

But I think it's a little of throwing the baby out with the bathwater if you dismiss the entire non conference. Certainly some teams haven't held up their end of the bargain, but it isn't all bad.

[WuDrWu]

In other words, if you eliminate North Dakota State, USC-Upstate and Alcorn State and replace them with @ Duke and home against Tulsa and Marshall, aren't we all going nuts over the schedule?

[rrshock]

In other words, if you eliminate North Dakota State, USC-Upstate and Alcorn State and replace them with @ Duke and home against Tulsa and Marshall, aren't we all going nuts over the schedule?

Yes. Especially with a win @Duke. :)

[ShockerFever]

I agree for the most part Doc. It's not a bad schedule outside the December of Doom. Those 3 games involving Texas Southern, Alcorn State, and USC Upstate canceled out Texas Tech, Pittsburgh, and TCU. They do absolutely nothing for our on-court product and do absolutely nothing for our computer numbers.

The numbers just don't lie. A 330 non-con SOS is brutal.

[WuDrWu]

The numbers just don't lie. A 330 non-con SOS is brutal.

No doubt about that.

[BenWSU]

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[WSUShokker]

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