I expect two teams to get invites. Three if there is a surprise winner in the conference tournament.
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I think UNI is on the bubble, at best. The DePaul loss is starting to look bad. They lost to Mississippi State (who has lost to Rider and Richmond) by 31 last night.
The BC win isn't looking very good as they lost to Harvard and a mediocre St. Joseph's.
It's too early to tell if the Iowa St. win will be good or not.
UNI needs to beat Siena tomorrow night in the worst way.
Honestly, I think WSU (assuming we win out in the OOC) and MSU have the best chance at an at-large resume right now.
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Originally posted by tropicalshoxYes I really think so. And yes, they can't afford a lot of upsets in conference play.
50 MSU
62 UNI
71 WSU
85 SIU
With WSU winning the MVC regular season at 12-6. Those RPI's are hardly at-large type RPI. Of course if a team(s) can do a little better than predicted then that changes.
MSU needs to be 22-7 to have a top 40 rpi
UNI needs to have a 22-6 to have a top 40 rpi
WSU needs to have 24-5 record to have a top 40 rpi
SIU needs to have 24-5 record to have a top 40 rpi
CU needs a 21-8 record for top 40 rpi
Margin of error is slim (cu has no margin of error) for all the teams.
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Originally posted by SB ShockOriginally posted by tropicalshoxYes I really think so. And yes, they can't afford a lot of upsets in conference play.
50 MSU
62 UNI
71 WSU
85 SIU
With WSU winning the MVC regular season at 12-6. Those RPI's are hardly at-large type RPI. Of course if a team(s) can do a little better than predicted then that changes.
MSU needs to be 22-7 to have a top 40 rpi
UNI needs to have a 22-6 to have a top 40 rpi
WSU needs to have 24-5 record to have a top 40 rpi
SIU needs to have 24-5 record to have a top 40 rpi
CU needs a 21-8 record for top 40 rpi
Margin of error is slim (cu has no margin of error) for all the teams."Cotton scared me - I left him alone." - B4MSU (Bear Nation poster) in reference to heckling players
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Originally posted by SB ShockOriginally posted by tropicalshoxYes I really think so. And yes, they can't afford a lot of upsets in conference play.
50 MSU
62 UNI
71 WSU
85 SIU
With WSU winning the MVC regular season at 12-6. Those RPI's are hardly at-large type RPI. Of course if a team(s) can do a little better than predicted then that changes.
MSU needs to be 22-7 to have a top 40 rpi
UNI needs to have a 22-6 to have a top 40 rpi
WSU needs to have 24-5 record to have a top 40 rpi
SIU needs to have 24-5 record to have a top 40 rpi
CU needs a 21-8 record for top 40 rpi
Margin of error is slim (cu has no margin of error) for all the teams.Deuces Valley.
... No really, deuces.
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Originally posted by DoubleJayAlumThat wasn't my intent.
I was just attempting to show why the Valley isn't getting more love nationally, which is the question that the OP posed. Instead of just making a comment, I thought I'd back it with facts.
Take a look at this:
CU 0-3 in the Old Spice Classic
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Originally posted by The Mad HatterOriginally posted by SB ShockOriginally posted by tropicalshoxYes I really think so. And yes, they can't afford a lot of upsets in conference play.
50 MSU
62 UNI
71 WSU
85 SIU
With WSU winning the MVC regular season at 12-6. Those RPI's are hardly at-large type RPI. Of course if a team(s) can do a little better than predicted then that changes.
MSU needs to be 22-7 to have a top 40 rpi
UNI needs to have a 22-6 to have a top 40 rpi
WSU needs to have 24-5 record to have a top 40 rpi
SIU needs to have 24-5 record to have a top 40 rpi
CU needs a 21-8 record for top 40 rpi
Margin of error is slim (cu has no margin of error) for all the teams.
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Originally posted by ShockerFeverOriginally posted by SB ShockOriginally posted by tropicalshoxYes I really think so. And yes, they can't afford a lot of upsets in conference play.
50 MSU
62 UNI
71 WSU
85 SIU
With WSU winning the MVC regular season at 12-6. Those RPI's are hardly at-large type RPI. Of course if a team(s) can do a little better than predicted then that changes.
MSU needs to be 22-7 to have a top 40 rpi
UNI needs to have a 22-6 to have a top 40 rpi
WSU needs to have 24-5 record to have a top 40 rpi
SIU needs to have 24-5 record to have a top 40 rpi
CU needs a 21-8 record for top 40 rpi
Margin of error is slim (cu has no margin of error) for all the teams.
but of course it is just a prediction (and simulation) and the error is going to be less in February than in mid-december. Who really think MSU is going to finish 2nd in the MVC?
But it is probably more accurate than the tradition daily RPI because it does look to the future. But at the same time it is based on statistics so it is able to show you it's error bound so you can judge what it's predicted accuracy is.
Here is figure showing how RPI forecast error was versus normal day-to-day RPI. MAD is Mean Absolute Deviation. As you can see it has a lower error and the two converge as the season winds down.
I think the brilliance of RPIforcecast is it shows you what your team (likely) has to do if you want to achieve a specific RPI.
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Originally posted by SB ShockOriginally posted by tropicalshoxYes I really think so. And yes, they can't afford a lot of upsets in conference play.
50 MSU
62 UNI
71 WSU
85 SIU
With WSU winning the MVC regular season at 12-6. Those RPI's are hardly at-large type RPI. Of course if a team(s) can do a little better than predicted then that changes.
MSU needs to be 22-7 to have a top 40 rpi
UNI needs to have a 22-6 to have a top 40 rpi
WSU needs to have 24-5 record to have a top 40 rpi
SIU needs to have 24-5 record to have a top 40 rpi
CU needs a 21-8 record for top 40 rpi
Margin of error is slim (cu has no margin of error) for all the teams.In the fast lane
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We could finish the season 23-7 and win two in the Tourney...25-8, that is a bubble team or better. 25 wins in the MVC will be tough, but certainly not impossible to ignore. Bottom line is that we need to win our next two games. Lose the next two and then the dance goes through St. Louis.
I like this team, but it is too early to tell what we've really got here.Livin the dream
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