Ratings watch

[courtmaster3104]

Sorry. I missed that night on the news, could you find it for me? It's the internet. Is there documentation that he sent that to EVERY single one of those schools? I will need that too in order to shut up.

[SubGod22]

Before providing such info I need documented proof that you're a rational and functioning member of society.

[RoyalShock]

So, we're talking about getting ONE BCS conference school on the schedule . . .

2005-2006
Illinois, Providence, Michigan St.

2006-2007
LSU, Syracuse, USC

2007-2008
Baylor, LSU

2008-2009
Georgetown, Michigan St, Texas Tech

2009-2010
Pitt, Iowa, Texas Tech

Since you can't provide any evidence, let alone a source for your claims, why don't you shut up?

[courtmaster3104]

PITT and Iowa were in a tourney. The Shockers got beat by PITT.

[SubGod22]

PITT and Iowa were in a tourney. The Shockers got beat by PITT.

And as with most schools in our situation tournaments are almost the only way to get to play such schools. They simply want little to do with the likes of us and would rather play St. Mary's School for the Blind.

[courtmaster3104]

Well I hope I eat my words and WSU pulls out a win Saturday. Should be an interesting game, but there's still much to be done in the Valley.

[RoyalShock]

PITT and Iowa were in a tourney. The Shockers got beat by PITT.

Did you ignore TTech?

You said ONE BCS team. Every one of the past 4 years had at least one scheduled, non-tournament game with a BCS conference team.

[Anthroshock]

Since you can't provide any evidence, let alone a source for your claims, why don't you shut up?

You are more entertaining when you are not Admining! :good:

[SHOCKvalue]

I will need that too in order to shut up.

Or we could just ask an admin or mod to simply ban your IP and account.

You signed up for SN mere hours ago, and since then you have been posting ad nauseum, and showing the rationalization skills of a ferret.

[RoyalShock]

Since you can't provide any evidence, let alone a source for your claims, why don't you shut up?

You are more entertaining when you are not Admining! :good:

:lol:

I told SB to reel me in if I get out line!

[ISASO]

'Master, where is the game with Iowa State and Texas A&M? Are you thinking Marshall is afraid to play?

[The Mad Hatter]

Don't be a sissy im4wsu. I'm asking why there couldn't be ONE school. Just ONE. You guys seem to have all the insight, I'm just on the outside looking in. I mean we're talking about more than 80 teams there. And not one???? Humor me, make an intelligent thought.

Not exactly sure what will convince you, since you clearly won't believe the numerous coaches who say that they try to make these match-ups happen only to have the big schools refuse, but I'll give a couple examples:

1. Gary Williams at Maryland made the exact same argument you are making. Upon hearing him make the argument, Valley coaches called him looking for a game, since by his own argument, the reason Valley teams weren't getting good RPI games was that they weren't asking for them. Guess whether or not Gary was actually willing to play anyone, in spite of the argument he made in public.

2. This is in football, but it still applies. A little while back, the AD at Boise State announced that in the face of criticism about their schedule, they would be willing to play anyone, anywhere. They had ZERO takers on this offer from BCS schools.

Thanks to sweeping their home and home series with Oregon (much like we swept the first two games with LSU), BCS schools want nothing to do with Boise State. As long as they don't play them, they can dismiss their undefeated schedule as being "against weak competition" in spite of the fact that every time Boise State got a chance they beat the BCS schools.

Top level BCS teams avoid good smaller schools like the plague because they don't want what they perceive as an embarrassing lose. Lower level BCS teams don't want to play smaller schools because as long as they don't lose head to head with small schools they can use the Gary Williams argument that going .500 in a BCS league merits getting an at-large bid over a non-BCS school. If they actually had to play those schools (especially if they, God forbid, had to go on the road) it would be clearly demonstrated that they were .500 because they were mediocre teams, and as long as the selection committee buys their argument, it is in their best interest to avoid playing the teams they are competing with for an at-large bid.

In a more general argument about scheduling, the pool of teams that are available to schedule any given year is far smaller than the pool of Division I teams. Tournaments and multi-year series with teams are scheduled well in advance, so even if two teams are willing to play each other in principle, they may not have overlapping open dates available, especially if much traveling is involved.

But hey, I'm happy to be proven wrong. As im4wsu has said, if find "just one school" is as easy as you are making it out to be, I'm sure that you will have no trouble setting something up for WSU. I'm sure Marshall will be thrilled once you get us a good RPI game. Good luck!

[Maggie]

You signed up for SN mere hours ago, and since then you have been posting ad nauseum, and showing the rationalization skills of a ferret.

Reason and common sense has lost all meaning in that nightmare alley of the world known as courtmaster3104’s mind.

[ShockTalk]

TMH said:
"Top level BCS teams avoid good smaller schools like the plague because they don't want what they perceive as an embarrassing lose. Lower level BCS teams don't want to play smaller schools because as long as they don't lose head to head with small schools they can use the Gary Williams argument that going .500 in a BCS league merits getting an at-large bid over a non-BCS school. If they actually had to play those schools (especially if they, God forbid, had to go on the road) it would be clearly demonstrated that they were .500 because they were mediocre teams, and as long as the selection committee buys their argument, it is in their best interest to avoid playing the teams they are competing with for an at-large bid."

I'm not that convinced of this. So far this year, the Atlantic-10 has played 41 games against BCS competition, 8 at home, 12 on the road, and 21 neutral sites. Yes, 21 of those games were against the Big East, but they still had 20 games against the other 5 BCS conferences. Other "major" mid major conf against BCS: WCC (this year anyway) 20, MWC 16, C-USA 14, and last at 12, MVC. I didn't go forward to see how future games fit into this. As a note: these 5 conferences had 29 games at home, 26 on the road, and the rest at neutral sites.

[ShockerFever]

Wait? You're telling me I missed more of this ignorant gum flapper? :-x

There's so many "points" to destroy that I don't know where to begin. This nub has the rationale and intelligence of a mule.

And bravo to everyone for absolutely slaughtering this clown. It wasn't even close. Every single "point" was ridiculously crushed.

The phrase I kept seeing over and over again was ONE BCS school. It's laughable on so many levels considering who we play in about 5 days.