Haters

[shocks02]

If TT can win in the Pit makes you wonder what happened at WSU? Twice as loud crowd and twice as tough team waiting in ABQ.

Pit woke up for Creighton and ABQ is pretty primed for TT (next game is on the road for us, hope we don't get ambushed)

Wow so what 220 decibels, sounds reasonable.

The chart at the following link says that the loudest possible sound is at a 194 dB level.

Decibel Level Comparison Chart

Well according to a UNM fan it is possible :D

Couldn't believe it either

[Steeleshocker]

One of my favorite plays of the game was a Singletary turnover. He caught an inbounds pass and ran straight into GS. Singletary fell backwards and traveled. He looked like he ran into a brick wall and was absolutely stunned. I loved how he whined and complained that he was pushed. GS stood up straight and didn't budge an inch. Anybody who questions the improvement in Garrett's strength is delusional.

His tip in was a very nice move, his roll for the dunk was a very nice move, and he was ice at the free throw line. I particularly love the new intensity he brings. When Murry couldn't shoot the free throws, I loved how GS demanded he go in and make them. That's the attitude we need on this team.

Sure, he has room to grow, but he has stepped up when needed. And Saturday was a big game and he didn't shirk away. If/when we get to the postseason, look for GS and JT to be huge factors.

[vancedave56]

For all your attempted jabs and ramblings, one thing is abundantly clear; you just aren't very sharp.

I guess if you want to argue that Garrett isn't as good as Cole Aldrich, then you win.

Yea you. :clap: :clap:

The point that those of us with a brain are making is that it's been whined about ad nauseum by many that Garrett is bad, will never be good, is over rated blah blah blah blah.

The fact is he is contributing, big time, on a team that is 10-1. We're not that bad, and he's not that bad. He's 11 games into his So. season. There still might be some upward growth. 36 months ago, he didn't even know if he was going to college. If you've been paying attention (and quite obviously you have not) you would also recognize he is becoming a team leader.


Keep crying about how we don't have 7'1" high flying All Americas that are departing for the NBA next year.

I am enjoying the ride.

:wsu_posters: :goshocks: :posterwu: :posterwsu:

I'm pulling for Garrett. He tries very hard with the body that he's still trying to figure out how to use. However, I suspect he will always be a jumper more reminiscent of Ryan Bradley than Paul Miller (Paul actually did have a decent vertical when he used it). Garrett also will never be as fast as Paul.

But here is the big thing going for GS right now: No matter how weak, uncoordinated, or impotent he looks on offensive rebounds and contested layups/dunks, he is drawing fouls and getting to the line (and making his free throws).

As you alluded to, his game certainly doesn't pass the eye-test, but as long as it shows up on the score sheet I'll be happy! E.O. will take care of any eye-test issues next year. :)

I loved Paul Miller, but he was never fast, nor was he a jumper. :shock:

[wsu789]

I'm with you, vance. GS is neither a speedster nor a leaper, but I sure don't remember Paul being either.

[Smooth007]

For all your attempted jabs and ramblings, one thing is abundantly clear; you just aren't very sharp.

I guess if you want to argue that Garrett isn't as good as Cole Aldrich, then you win.

Yea you. :clap: :clap:

The point that those of us with a brain are making is that it's been whined about ad nauseum by many that Garrett is bad, will never be good, is over rated blah blah blah blah.

The fact is he is contributing, big time, on a team that is 10-1. We're not that bad, and he's not that bad. He's 11 games into his So. season. There still might be some upward growth. 36 months ago, he didn't even know if he was going to college. If you've been paying attention (and quite obviously you have not) you would also recognize he is becoming a team leader.


Keep crying about how we don't have 7'1" high flying All Americas that are departing for the NBA next year.

I am enjoying the ride.

:wsu_posters: :goshocks: :posterwu: :posterwsu:

I'm pulling for Garrett. He tries very hard with the body that he's still trying to figure out how to use. However, I suspect he will always be a jumper more reminiscent of Ryan Bradley than Paul Miller (Paul actually did have a decent vertical when he used it). Garrett also will never be as fast as Paul.

But here is the big thing going for GS right now: No matter how weak, uncoordinated, or impotent he looks on offensive rebounds and contested layups/dunks, he is drawing fouls and getting to the line (and making his free throws).

As you alluded to, his game certainly doesn't pass the eye-test, but as long as it shows up on the score sheet I'll be happy! E.O. will take care of any eye-test issues next year. :)

I loved Paul Miller, but he was never fast, nor was he a jumper. :shock:

Agreed...

[MTXE]

For all your attempted jabs and ramblings, one thing is abundantly clear; you just aren't very sharp.

I guess if you want to argue that Garrett isn't as good as Cole Aldrich, then you win.

Yea you. :clap: :clap:

The point that those of us with a brain are making is that it's been whined about ad nauseum by many that Garrett is bad, will never be good, is over rated blah blah blah blah.

The fact is he is contributing, big time, on a team that is 10-1. We're not that bad, and he's not that bad. He's 11 games into his So. season. There still might be some upward growth. 36 months ago, he didn't even know if he was going to college. If you've been paying attention (and quite obviously you have not) you would also recognize he is becoming a team leader.


Keep crying about how we don't have 7'1" high flying All Americas that are departing for the NBA next year.

I am enjoying the ride.

:wsu_posters: :goshocks: :posterwu: :posterwsu:

I'm pulling for Garrett. He tries very hard with the body that he's still trying to figure out how to use. However, I suspect he will always be a jumper more reminiscent of Ryan Bradley than Paul Miller (Paul actually did have a decent vertical when he used it). Garrett also will never be as fast as Paul.

But here is the big thing going for GS right now: No matter how weak, uncoordinated, or impotent he looks on offensive rebounds and contested layups/dunks, he is drawing fouls and getting to the line (and making his free throws).

As you alluded to, his game certainly doesn't pass the eye-test, but as long as it shows up on the score sheet I'll be happy! E.O. will take care of any eye-test issues next year. :)

I loved Paul Miller, but he was never fast, nor was he a jumper. :shock:

I think you are a little confused...

Paul Miller was very fast and agile for his size (6'10" 250lbs). Does anybody remember the fast break dunk at Southern Illinois. He led a pack of rabid dogs the entire length of the court and finished above the rim.

In case you need any data on PM's vertical leap just check his NBA tryout statistics. His vertical shocked me.

The only thing Miller was missing at WSU was an aggressive streak. He developed that nicely after he left.

[Shoxfan11]

One of my favorite plays of the game was a Singletary turnover. He caught an inbounds pass and ran straight into GS. Singletary fell backwards and traveled. He looked like he ran into a brick wall and was absolutely stunned. I loved how he whined and complained that he was pushed. GS stood up straight and didn't budge an inch. Anybody who questions the improvement in Garrett's strength is delusional.

Yeah, that was great defense by Stutz.

Speaking of Singletary, how about Hatch's defense on him the entire night? I remember Hatch's freshman year, all he could do was shoot the three. Many people on here wanted him off the team.. it's mind-blowing how much he has improved.

[vancedave56]

NM

[Aargh]

Pardon me for throwing in a few facts.

Twice tonight (against NDSU), Stutz got down the court with the guards in transition. Unfortunately, now he needs to learn how to dunk while traveling at that speed.

Paul Miller had a 33" vertical measured at the NBA combine. I can't remember his speed from baseline to baseline, but it was near the bottom of all post players at the combine.

Stutz certainly appears to get down the court quicker than Miller did as a So.
Stutz may actually turn out to be "fast" (for a 7' guy).

There was a reference to Cole Aldrich earlier in the thread. Does anybody happen to have Aldrich's stats as a So?

Stutz didn't have a vertical last year. He had never had to jump and hadn't figured it out. This year he's getting some elevation. Give him another year of strength work and another year of just plain practicing jumping. I think he'll start showing decent elevation his Sr. year. Probably not 33".

[ShockerFever]

Interestingly, Mr. Miller was in the Roundhouse tonight. :good:

[Ricardo del Rio]

For all your attempted jabs and ramblings, one thing is abundantly clear; you just aren't very sharp.

I guess if you want to argue that Garrett isn't as good as Cole Aldrich, then you win.

Yea you. :clap: :clap:

The point that those of us with a brain are making is that it's been whined about ad nauseum by many that Garrett is bad, will never be good, is over rated blah blah blah blah.

The fact is he is contributing, big time, on a team that is 10-1. We're not that bad, and he's not that bad. He's 11 games into his So. season. There still might be some upward growth. 36 months ago, he didn't even know if he was going to college. If you've been paying attention (and quite obviously you have not) you would also recognize he is becoming a team leader.


Keep crying about how we don't have 7'1" high flying All Americas that are departing for the NBA next year.

I am enjoying the ride.

:wsu_posters: :goshocks: :posterwu: :posterwsu:

I'm pulling for Garrett. He tries very hard with the body that he's still trying to figure out how to use. However, I suspect he will always be a jumper more reminiscent of Ryan Bradley than Paul Miller (Paul actually did have a decent vertical when he used it). Garrett also will never be as fast as Paul.

But here is the big thing going for GS right now: No matter how weak, uncoordinated, or impotent he looks on offensive rebounds and contested layups/dunks, he is drawing fouls and getting to the line (and making his free throws).

As you alluded to, his game certainly doesn't pass the eye-test, but as long as it shows up on the score sheet I'll be happy! E.O. will take care of any eye-test issues next year. :)

I loved Paul Miller, but he was never fast, nor was he a jumper. :shock:

I think you are a little confused...

Paul Miller was very fast and agile for his size (6'10" 250lbs). Does anybody remember the fast break dunk at Southern Illinois. He led a pack of rabid dogs the entire length of the court and finished above the rim.

In case you need any data on PM's vertical leap just check his NBA tryout statistics. His vertical shocked me.

The only thing Miller was missing at WSU was an aggressive streak. He developed that nicely after he left.

MT is right.

Based upon my visual observation, Miller's foot speed is quite a bit greater than Garrett's.

Based upon my visual observation, Miller's vertical is greater than Garrett's. It may be quite a bit better, but I cannot testify to that assertion. I have heard about the NBA report, but I have never read it.

[MTXE]

Pardon me for throwing in a few facts.
Twice tonight (against NDSU), Stutz got down the court with the guards in transition. Unfortunately, now he needs to learn how to dunk while traveling at that speed.

I think you may be guilty of convenient recollection. Those times Stutz made it down "with the guards" didn't happen to be after he missed a three did it? ;)

Paul Miller had a 33" vertical measured at the NBA combine. I can't remember his speed from baseline to baseline, but it was near the bottom of all post players at the combine.

And he was probably the only white guy at the tryouts. I didn't say Paul Miller was fast for an NBA post player. How does this relate to Stutz's sloth?

Stutz certainly appears to get down the court quicker than Miller did as a So.

Patently false. Miller was fairly incompetent his first full year but he did have flashes of speed.

Stutz may actually turn out to be "fast" (for a 7' guy).

And I might turn out to be Gandhi. You'll see "fast for a 7' guy" next year when E.O. shows up.

Stutz didn't have a vertical last year. He had never had to jump and hadn't figured it out.

I can't say exactly, but I think I figured out how to jump when I was about 5 years old. Plenty of 6'10"+ high school seniors that know how to jump before they ever arrive on a college campus. You can teach defense, you can't teach jumping. Vertical can be improved slightly in the weight room or with stretching, but genetics are genetics.

[MTXE]

One thing that is concerning me more and more is Garrett's "move" to the basket. I am thankful that he is making his "move" faster and with less hesitation, but gosh is it ugly and clumsy. I call it a "move" with quotations because it really appears to be a fall. Garrett appears to fall to the basket when catching in traffic. It is almost as if somebody is stepping on his toes. Perhaps that is a strategy of the opposition? Somebody needs to alert the officials of possible felonious foot play under the basket.

[shocker22]

Pardon me for throwing in a few facts.
Twice tonight (against NDSU), Stutz got down the court with the guards in transition. Unfortunately, now he needs to learn how to dunk while traveling at that speed.

I think you may be guilty of convenient recollection. Those times Stutz made it down "with the guards" didn't happen to be after he missed a three did it? ;)

Paul Miller had a 33" vertical measured at the NBA combine. I can't remember his speed from baseline to baseline, but it was near the bottom of all post players at the combine.

And he was probably the only white guy at the tryouts. I didn't say Paul Miller was fast for an NBA post player. How does this relate to Stutz's sloth?

Stutz certainly appears to get down the court quicker than Miller did as a So.

Patently false. Miller was fairly incompetent his first full year but he did have flashes of speed.

Stutz may actually turn out to be "fast" (for a 7' guy).

And I might turn out to be Gandhi. You'll see "fast for a 7' guy" next year when E.O. shows up.

Stutz didn't have a vertical last year. He had never had to jump and hadn't figured it out.

I can't say exactly, but I think I figured out how to jump when I was about 5 years old. Plenty of 6'10"+ high school seniors that know how to jump before they ever arrive on a college campus. You can teach defense, you can't teach jumping. Vertical can be improved slightly in the weight room or with stretching, but genetics are genetics.

Why do you even post on this board? I saw Stutz hustle down the floor on transition defense and he was shockingly fast for his size. He is faster than miller as far as foot speed and will be quicker with his move by next year. He has a better verticle than Paul by far. Paul could hardly dunk! Garret will learn how to jump more quickly instead of loading up and that comes with practice and experience.

Now, would you please take your thoughts somewhere else, I think most of us are all tired of readin your BS.

[MTXE]

Why do you even post on this board? I saw Stutz hustle down the floor on transition defense and he was shockingly fast for his size. He is faster than miller as far as foot speed and will be quicker with his move by next year. He has a better verticle than Paul by far. Paul could hardly dunk! Garret will learn how to jump more quickly instead of loading up and that comes with practice and experience.

Now, would you please take your thoughts somewhere else, I think most of us are all tired of readin your BS.

Congratulations! Your post is as close to 100% incorrect as I have ever seen. You must have done this on purpose?