Official WSU vs Cleveland State thread

[WuDrWu]

Respectfully disagree Ricky. I'll make a wager with anyone that wants to that Garrett is above 70% for the year, double if it hits 75 (or drops below 65).

[HockeyShock]

No clue why you would make that comment HOCKEY SHOCK.

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[SubGod22]

Respectfully disagree Ricky. I'll make a wager with anyone that wants to that Garrett is above 70% for the year, double if it hits 75 (or drops below 65).

I'm with Doc on his thoughts. I'm not worried at all with Garrett at the line. He should definitely finish above 70%

[Ricardo del Rio]

Respectfully disagree Ricky. I'll make a wager with anyone that wants to that Garrett is above 70% for the year, double if it hits 75 (or drops below 65).

I hope you are right.

Part of my brain says he could be an 80%+ free throw player.

The balance of my brain keeps looking at real time and written stats.

Long ago, I would bet a dollar to a donut, but it would be unfair these days. So, I will bet $2 to a donut.

[im4wsu]

Respectfully disagree Ricky. I'll make a wager with anyone that wants to that Garrett is above 70% for the year, double if it hits 75 (or drops below 65).

I hope you are right.

Part of my brain says he could be an 80%+ free throw player.

The balance of my brain keeps looking at real time and written stats.

Long ago, I would bet a dollar to a donut, but it would be unfair these days. So, I will bet $2 to a donut.

Today he is 8 of twelve this year; had he made only one of those misses he'd be 9 of 12 or 75%. You put an awful lot of weight on one FT attempt. His form is good, his shot has nice arch. Why the skepticism?

[WuDrWu]

Because Ricky has seen enough poor FT shooting at WSU in the last 25 years to choke a herd of Banthas.



RDR knows basketball, and he knows what it takes to win.


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[pinstripers]

..........a herd of Banthas.................

[shockar25]

..........a herd of Banthas.................

A Star Wars reference I believe....

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[rjl]

No clue why you would make that comment HOCKEY SHOCK.

Please see below--not trolling.
Do you disagree?

Yep Tougaloo College is pretty good



@ Tougaloo College N/A L 109-86

at (16) Ohio St. L 60-100 -- --
at Arkansas L 68-130 -- --
at LA Monroe L 66-82 -- --
at Albany L 55-71 -- --
Robert Morris L 76-107 -- --
at Detroit L 59-79 -- --
at South Alabama L 67-83 -- --
at Utah Valley L 53-68

On Wednesday night they play KU, which should help their strength of schedule rating.

But yes. Horrible team, horrible rpi.

[Ricardo del Rio]

Respectfully disagree Ricky. I'll make a wager with anyone that wants to that Garrett is above 70% for the year, double if it hits 75 (or drops below 65).

I hope you are right.

Part of my brain says he could be an 80%+ free throw player.

The balance of my brain keeps looking at real time and written stats.

Long ago, I would bet a dollar to a donut, but it would be unfair these days. So, I will bet $2 to a donut.

Today he is 8 of twelve this year; had he made only one of those misses he'd be 9 of 12 or 75%. You put an awful lot of weight on one FT attempt. His form is good, his shot has nice arch. Why the skepticism?

"Skepticism" is not the best choice of words. I might substitute "cautious optimism."

I like facts and I like folks, who speak with facts. Folks like SB Shocker.

For Garrett's career, there are 47 data points. He has 32 makes and 15 misses. It figgers out to be 68.1% lifetime.

It has been my eyeball experience that most players do not significantly improve their free throw percentage from year to year. JT has been an exception.

I have some hope for Garrett because he looks comfortable at the line to me. Plus, he seems to have a consistent and effective form.

[Aargh]

FT% seems to be inversely proportional to height.

Tall guys aren't known for their ability to hit from 15', as they spend most of their careers attempting to shoot from closer than that.

I'll take a 7' guy who can hit abouve 2/3 of his throws. That's a pretty good % for a guy that height. The guards should be quite a bit higher and get enough shots to pull the team average above 70%.

[shockar25]

FT% seems to be inversely proportional to height.

Tall guys aren't known for their ability to hit from 15', as they spend most of their careers attempting to shoot from closer than that.

I'll take a 7' guy who can hit abouve 2/3 of his throws. That's a pretty good % for a guy that height. The guards should be quite a bit higher and get enough shots to pull the team average above 70%.

What was Paul's career free throw percentage?

[im4wsu]

FT% seems to be inversely proportional to height.

Tall guys aren't known for their ability to hit from 15', as they spend most of their careers attempting to shoot from closer than that.

I'll take a 7' guy who can hit abouve 2/3 of his throws. That's a pretty good % for a guy that height. The guards should be quite a bit higher and get enough shots to pull the team average above 70%.

What was Paul's career free throw percentage?

73.8%

[im4wsu]

Respectfully disagree Ricky. I'll make a wager with anyone that wants to that Garrett is above 70% for the year, double if it hits 75 (or drops below 65).

I hope you are right.

Part of my brain says he could be an 80%+ free throw player.
The balance of my brain keeps looking at real time and written stats.

Long ago, I would bet a dollar to a donut, but it would be unfair these days. So, I will bet $2 to a donut.

Today he is 8 of twelve this year; had he made only one of those misses he'd be 9 of 12 or 75%. You put an awful lot of weight on one FT attempt. His form is good, his shot has nice arch. Why the skepticism?

"Skepticism" is not the best choice of words. I might substitute "cautious optimism."

I like facts and I like folks, who speak with facts. Folks like SB Shocker.

For Garrett's career, there are 47 data points. He has 32 makes and 15 misses. It figgers out to be 68.1% lifetime.

It has been my eyeball experience that most players do not significantly improve their free throw percentage from year to year. JT has been an exception.

I have some hope for Garrett because he looks comfortable at the line to me. Plus, he seems to have a consistent and effective form.

Just to name a few with facts:

Cleo Littleton Fr: 69.4% Sr: 79.7% Career: 73.6%
X-man: Fr: 62.8% Soph: 54.1% Jr: 68.0% Sr: 63.4% Career: 62.4%
AC: Fr: 66.7% So: 76.5% Jr: 79.1% Sr: 74.6% Career: 74.6%
Cheese: Fr. 56.6% Sr: 63.5% Career 61.8%
Perez Fr: 74.5% So: 74.0% Jr. 83.3% Sr: 78.3% Career: 78.0%
Jamar: Fr: 63.7% Jr: 78.4% Sr: 60.1% Career: 67.7%
Jamie Thompson: So: 81.7% Sr: 90.5% Career: 85.3%

There are just as many in the 1,000 club that decreased effeciency over the years.