Another Stutz discussion

[OKC Shocker]

What are you talking about?

My XBOX 360 dynasty with the shox. He ends up winning National POTY but does not make an All-American team. Makes a lot of sense.

I play that too and all, but it really doesn't contribute to the conversation...

Well I was saying that Stutz developed big time in the second year of my dynasty, which would contribute to what we are talking about. Easy Guy!

[InWuWeTrust]

Let's take all this X-Box & Fantasy crap to your local Facebook website!
This website is meant for real sports, real teams, real people, real sweat & real fans!

who urinated in your cheerios?

[Kung Wu]

Nothing to base it on, but one good reason not to red-shirt when you don't have to is if a player is injury prone or plays an injury prone position. If you have already red-shirted just for "growth" reasons then you are screwed if he pulls a hammy or has a nasty ankle sprain in a subsequent season.

Centers seem to take a lot of abuse -- that's just my take as an observer -- I don't know anything about the position. But I'd rather have a player play for four years with a so-so bench year (at least he got experience as a freshman), then only have a player get to play three because I outsmarted myself and thought I could get some growth out of him, just to have a lame duck his junior or senior year.

I know that's not always the best strategy (you may have a really stacked team one year and it just makes sense to sit a player and take the risk), but it's something to consider.

[Txlen]

Kung Wu, good point.

You would hope that things did not go awry, but you never know for sure. Make a decision (redshirt) and hope for the best. It is something that you do playing the odds.

Good point, though, KW.

[ShockerFever]

My XBOX 360 dynasty with the shox. He ends up winning National POTY but does not make an All-American team. Makes a lot of sense.

i love this game.. i just won a national championship with Texas-Corpus Christi..an team with no conference affiliation. i earned a 11-seed with an overall record of 26-5, a 14 RPI and a #21 national ranking...talk about no respect. the wichita state job hasn't come open yet

too bad EA got involved and tried to bully the NCAA on licensing..or we'd be getting ready for 2k10 college hoops.

That's why I'm still playing my 2K7 game. I refuse to buy that POS EA game. Biggest joke ever.

[ShockerFever]

My XBOX 360 dynasty with the shox. He ends up winning National POTY but does not make an All-American team. Makes a lot of sense.

i love this game.. i just won a national championship with Texas-Corpus Christi..an team with no conference affiliation. i earned a 11-seed with an overall record of 26-5, a 14 RPI and a #21 national ranking...talk about no respect. the wichita state job hasn't come open yet

too bad EA got involved and tried to bully the NCAA on licensing..or we'd be getting ready for 2k10 college hoops.

Let's take all this X-Box & Fantasy crap to your local Facebook website!
This website is meant for real sports, real teams, real people, real sweat & real fans!

It's the summer. I'd actually be interested in hearing about all of the stats OKC has in his xbox dynasty season. Feel free to continue OKC.

[pinstripers]

Karaoke is my life.

[Aargh]

This is from forevershockerfan in the KWCH thread:

Stutz will come in weighing about 250+ it appears with stronger legs so he can't be pushed around inside. I like his shooting touch.

It's hard to judge lower-body weight and strength when pants go past knees, but I think fsf saw something here that looks right. Stutz looked stronger in the few shots of him on the TV clips. Even his face looked like he was gaining strength abd confidence.

That's not much to go on, but it supports fsf's expectation that Stutz wll staart the season at 250+, so I'm going with that.

Stutz weight last year was 235 and I'm confident he was below that by the end of the season. So, fsf is proposing and I'm saying it's possible that Stutz gains 20 - 25 pounds in the 7 months from April through October. That's 3-4 pounds a month. Stutz has the places to put it and that's a functional weight gain amount for a 7', 19-yea-old athlete.

If Stutz can start the season at 250 - 255, then it looks like he will have the 20 pounds of muscle he needed last year. It's still easier to push around 7', 250 (Stutz) than to push around 6'10", 250 (Miller). Those 2" have a leverage difference.

If Stutz can open this season at 250 or more, he could be dangerous this year. Look at shooting touch, moves, shooting range and compare those to Miller. There are some differences, but there are a lot of similarities.

I think Stutz can and will end up as a slightly larger version of Paul Miller.

[Ricardo del Rio]

This is from forevershockerfan in the KWCH thread:

Stutz will come in weighing about 250+ it appears with stronger legs so he can't be pushed around inside. I like his shooting touch.

It's hard to judge lower-body weight and strength when pants go past knees, but I think fsf saw something here that looks right. Stutz looked stronger in the few shots of him on the TV clips. Even his face looked like he was gaining strength abd confidence.

That's not much to go on, but it supports fsf's expectation that Stutz wll staart the season at 250+, so I'm going with that.

Stutz weight last year was 235 and I'm confident he was below that by the end of the season. So, fsf is proposing and I'm saying it's possible that Stutz gains 20 - 25 pounds in the 7 months from April through October. That's 3-4 pounds a month. Stutz has the places to put it and that's a functional weight gain amount for a 7', 19-yea-old athlete.

If Stutz can start the season at 250 - 255, then it looks like he will have the 20 pounds of muscle he needed last year. It's still easier to push around 7', 250 (Stutz) than to push around 6'10", 250 (Miller). Those 2" have a leverage difference.

If Stutz can open this season at 250 or more, he could be dangerous this year. Look at shooting touch, moves, shooting range and compare those to Miller. There are some differences, but there are a lot of similarities.

I think Stutz can and will end up as a slightly larger version of Paul Miller.

Coach Marshall has said that Garrett Stutz will be at 280# by his senior year. If so, he will be a big, big boy.

[kcshocker11]

I dont mean to be a critique but 5 lbs of muscle is very hard to achieve by a natural bodybuilder in 1 yrs time much less 20. Now if hes still growing which at 19 is possible he may add 20 lbs but it wont all be muscle.

[Dan]

It may not all be muscle, but when you're rail thin amd 7 feet tall, you could put on 15 pounds of fat and not really be able to tell the difference.

[wufan]

It's not out of the question to put on 20 lbs of muscle when you are 20 and not muscular. It is much more difficult to put 5 lbs of muscle on if you are already a ripped body builder.

[SubGod22]

From what I've heard, they expect him to hit about 260 before practices begin and end up playing around 250 this year.

[WSU Cowboy]

I,m alittle concerned that GS has not been around last several of the evening pick up games......I hope he has not been sick. He has missed a chance to play against Paul Miller and Kyle Wilson. Both of them look really good. He won't get to play aginst to many player of their ability in the up coming season.

[MadaboutWu]

I,m alittle concerned that GS has not been around last several of the evening pick up games......I hope he has not been sick. He has missed a chance to play against Paul Miller and Kyle Wilson. Both of them look really good. He won't get to play aginst to many player of their ability in the up coming season.

If you saw some practices, care to provide a report. It's been a while since we've had any... :cry: